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  • whisper
    Legend
    • Mar 2020
    • 9423

    A 3-man QB comp is a waste of time



    The Pittsburgh Steelers are getting a close look at two of their four quarterbacks this weekend during rookie minicamp, and while Kenny Pickett and Chris Oladokun take center stage, the big competition looms large.

    That competition would be none other than the battle to see who will be the team’s starting quarterback in Week 1.

    While every black and gold fan has their own opinion of who they believe should be the starting quarterback, Mike Tomlin has made it crystal clear every player on the roster will be given an opportunity to prove their worth and win the job during training camp.

    This all sounds well and good, but the fact is the team should not be having a wide open competition for the starting quarterback opening. At least not a competition with 3-4 players vying for one spot.

    Oladokun is a player just fighting for a roster spot, so we’ll eliminate him from the equation. Barring injury, Oladokun’s hope of making the 53-man roster largely hinges on Mason Rudolph playing well enough for a team who suffered an injury at quarterback calls the Steelers and pulls off a trade for his services, making Oladokun QB3 on the depth chart.

    Then there was three.

    Mitchell Trubisky
    Kenny Pickett
    Mason Rudolph

    In Bill Cowher’s book Heart and Steel, he spoke about trying to work a three quarterback competition, and it failed miserably. As he put it, there just aren’t enough repetitions to go around.

    With that being said, the more I think about the Steelers’ quarterback situation heading into 2022, I tend to lean towards this actually being a two, not a three, man race for the quarterback throne. Let me explain.


    Obviously, Trubisky was a prized addition to the Steelers’ offense, if he wasn’t viewed this way the team wouldn’t have gone out and signed him in the early hours on of the legal tampering period. Sure, they drafted Kenny Pickett with the 20th overall pick in the 2022 NFL Draft, but they didn’t know that was a guarantee when they signed Trubisky. In other words, he was the guy they wanted if they weren’t able to land a quarterback in the draft.

    Trubisky will, and should, be given every opportunity to win the starting quarterback job this offseason.

    The case for Kenny Pickett is pretty cut and dry. When you spend the 20th overall pick, and it being the first quarterback taken in the draft, on a quarterback, you give them an opportunity to win the job. Throw in the fact he has 49 career starts in college and is 24 years old and the case continues to make itself.

    There aren’t many, but there is a fraction of the fan base who is still thinking Rudolph has a shot at winning the job. It isn’t out of the realm of possibility, but to me that only happens if the previous two quarterbacks trip and fall flat.

    Not only that, if I were to give Tomlin a suggestion, it would be to limit Rudolph’s reps during camp. Why? What more do you need to see of Rudolph you haven’t already seen? He’s been in the organization for the past four seasons, going on year five, has been a starter and received starter reps leading up to games with Ben Roethlisberger getting time off.

    What more do you need to see?

    If the Steelers valued Rudolph, or even thought he had a legitimate shot at winning the job, why get Trubisky in the early hours of free agency? Why feel the need to get a first round quarterback?

    The answer is they’ve seen enough to know Rudolph isn’t the answer.

    To bring this full circle, the fact the Steelers think of Rudolph in this fashion, and his history with the team, this quarterback competition shouldn’t be open. It shouldn’t be a four person competition. Heck, it shouldn’t even be a three person competition. The competition should be between Pickett and Trubisky, with Rudolph as the fail safe if they both flounder.

    Hopefully Tomlin learns from the mistake Cowher made and the right decision is made even before camp. No, not on picking a quarterback, but preparing a competition which is best for the organization.
    That's how Cowher saw it, and he tried it personally.
  • feltdizz
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 27532

    #2
    lmao at Trubisky being a prized addition. Dude was dirt cheap and available. He was insurance in case Pickett wasn’t available because as we now know, most people in the FO thought Pickett would be gone.

    Trubisky is in the mix but he is not the favorite nor should it be his job to lose.
    Steelers 27
    Rats 16

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    • whisper
      Legend
      • Mar 2020
      • 9423

      #3
      Originally posted by feltdizz
      lmao at Trubisky being a prized addition. Dude was dirt cheap and available. He was insurance in case Pickett wasn’t available because as we now know, most people in the FO thought Pickett would be gone.

      Trubisky is in the mix but he is not the favorite nor should it be his job to lose.
      Time will tell, a lot are saying Mitch will be ready week 1, Pickett will not.

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      • feltdizz
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 27532

        #4
        Originally posted by whisper
        Time will tell, a lot are saying Mitch will be ready week 1, Pickett will not.
        yes.. based on what he did in 2018. Not saying Trubisky is washed but lets not act
        like he is a prized addition.

        QB’s who are described this way aren’t signing for 7mill a season.

        He’s a backup QB being given all the benefits of doubt simply because fans can’t stand Mason Rudolph.
        Steelers 27
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        • whisper
          Legend
          • Mar 2020
          • 9423

          #5
          Originally posted by feltdizz
          yes.. based on what he did in 2018. Not saying Trubisky is washed but lets not act
          like he is a prized addition.

          QB’s who are described this way aren’t signing for 7mill a season.

          He’s a backup QB being given all the benefits of doubt simply because fans can’t stand Mason Rudolph.
          Wait a minute, weren't you a flag waving Mitch supporter before Ken was signed? Weird.

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          • feltdizz
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 27532

            #6
            Originally posted by whisper
            Wait a minute, weren't you a flag waving Mitch supporter before Ken was signed? Weird.
            Flag waving? What does that mean? I’m on record saying Mitch was a terrible pick for the Bears BUT just like with Haskins.. a former 1st rounder on the cheap is always a good signing IMO. Low risk and chance of high reward.

            I’m on record saying I “hope” Mitch panned out.. same as Haskins.

            I’m also on record saying Mason could still beat him out because he knows the offense and we haven’t seen Mitch play for a whole year.

            I’m also on record saying if Pickett was available we would be stupid to pass on him. I’m a Pitt fan and a huge Pickett fan.
            Steelers 27
            Rats 16

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            • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 10281

              #7
              Originally posted by feltdizz
              lmao at Trubisky being a prized addition. Dude was dirt cheap and available. He was insurance in case Pickett wasn’t available because as we now know, most people in the FO thought Pickett would be gone.

              Trubisky is in the mix but he is not the favorite nor should it be his job to lose.
              I believe that the team will approach this as an open competition with two co-favorites. Mason will have to blow the competition away to enter the contest but is most likely a guy on the block who will be gone the first time a team calls and offers a fifth or a sixth when their backup goes down in camp.
              http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...to_Mike/to.jpg

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              • hawaiiansteel
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 35648

                #8
                Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                I believe that the team will approach this as an open competition with two co-favorites. Mason will have to blow the competition away to enter the contest but is most likely a guy on the block who will be gone the first time a team calls and offers a fifth or a sixth when their backup goes down in camp.
                I agree.

                also, sorry about your Maple Leafs

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                • NorthCoast
                  Legend
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 26636

                  #9
                  Originally posted by feltdizz
                  yes.. based on what he did in 2018. Not saying Trubisky is washed but lets not act
                  like he is a prized addition.

                  QB’s who are described this way aren’t signing for 7mill a season.

                  He’s a backup QB being given all the benefits of doubt simply because fans can’t stand Mason Rudolph.
                  C'mon man. The Steelers didn't waste a second in signing Trubisky when FA started. They could have chilled and waited for Mayfield to come free after the Browns cut him. The fact is they wanted Trubisky for his fit in the offense they are planning.

                  It was long expected that the Buffalo Bills were set to lose backup quarterback Mitchell Trubisky once the free agency window opened in the NFL.

                  It took about an hour.
                  Throughout the offseason, the Bills have said they expected Trubisky to get offers from other teams. Among those were Buffalo head coach Sean McDermott and general manager Brandon Beane.


                  “Mitch was outstanding and I know that he’s going to go out and get a chance to play,” Beane said at his end of season press conference.

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                  • WindyCitySteel
                    Legend
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 15684

                    #10
                    I think the Steelers are going to set up Mason to succeed early in PS then trade him. That's what I'd do, anyway.

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                    • hawaiiansteel
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 35648

                      #11
                      Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
                      I think the Steelers are going to set up Mason to succeed early in PS then trade him. That's what I'd do, anyway.
                      the problem with doing that is if Trubisky or Pickett then get injured all you would have left is the 7th round rookie.

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                      • feltdizz
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 27532

                        #12
                        Originally posted by NorthCoast
                        C'mon man. The Steelers didn't waste a second in signing Trubisky when FA started. They could have chilled and waited for Mayfield to come free after the Browns cut him. The fact is they wanted Trubisky for his fit in the offense they are planning.
                        is this sarcasm? Waiting on Baker? Really..
                        Steelers 27
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                        • feltdizz
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 27532

                          #13
                          Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                          the problem with doing that is if Trubisky or Pickett then get injured all you would have left is the 7th round rookie.
                          what team carries a proven 3rd string QB?
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                          • Northern_Blitz
                            Legend
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 24373

                            #14
                            Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                            I believe that the team will approach this as an open competition with two co-favorites. Mason will have to blow the competition away to enter the contest but is most likely a guy on the block who will be gone the first time a team calls and offers a fifth or a sixth when their backup goes down in camp.
                            This is what I think too.

                            Let Mitch and Kenny battle for the job.

                            Keep Mason around in case someone gets hurt. Maybe trade him late in the preseason if everyone looks healthy and the late pick plays OK.

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                            • Joel Buchsbaum
                              Legend
                              • Jan 2021
                              • 7744

                              #15
                              Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                              I believe that the team will approach this as an open competition with two co-favorites. Mason will have to blow the competition away to enter the contest but is most likely a guy on the block who will be gone the first time a team calls and offers a fifth or a sixth when their backup goes down in camp.
                              He won't. It's between two people, Rudy is out unless injury hits. I hope we can trade him for something. Like you said a 5th or 6th round pick. Starting camp Turbisky has the edge vs a rookie.

                              We have been talking playoffs. Its been a while since the Leafs won a championship. 1960 something. Curious do the fan's blame the coaching for choking in the playoffs or not? We have a small thread on coaching here : )
                              Last edited by Joel Buchsbaum; 05-16-2022, 05:36 PM.
                              Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                              Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                              *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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