Bush's 5th Year option declined

[whisper]

Also this is pretty rich coming from a guy who questions everything Mike Tomlin does.

Not everything, just the decisions that deserve questioning, and there are a lot: over-valuing players from MD/VA; over-valuing having cutsie brothers on the roster (4 as I type this, with the 4 brothers not adding anything to production of the team.)

[Joel Buchsbaum]

Explain his rookie season?

I will. Listen up! Teams didn't know him / test him in coverage as a rookie and he had a fine DL back then in Tuitt and a 33 year old solid nose tackle protecting him for OL players. Since then he was ripped in coverage in year two before the knee injury , and easily blocked on the second level. He used to be a fine blitzer, key word used to be. His bust is gone and his lack of understanding about the defense magnified his physical limitations. He's shot / short armed, light, and now slower. Didn't match up with TE's or speedy backs that could catch at any time on his career.

[Mr.wizard]

I will. Listen up! Teams didn't know him / test him in coverage as a rookie and he had a fine DL back then in Tuitt and a 33 year old solid nose tackle protecting him for OL players. Since then he was ripped in coverage in year two before the knee injury , and easily blocked on the second level. He used to be a fine blitzer, key word used to be. His bust is gone and his lack of understanding about the defense magnified his physical limitations. He's shot / short armed, light, and now slower. Didn't match up with TE's or speedy backs that could catch at any time on his career.

That is just a lie that he ripped in coverage before the injury, we were 5-0 when he got hurt and the defense was playing well. And his rookie season he had 2 picks and was excellent in coverage. The idea that they didn't know about Bush so there for didn't try to throw at him is a joke. Saying he used to be a fine blitzer is also laughable considering that was the weak part of his game and was used mostly in coverage.

[Northern_Blitz]

Explain his rookie season?

Maybe it's possible that he's really good at winning in one particular way. But when teams got tape on him, they figured out how to stop that?

Seems to me like he was making a lot of mental mistakes last year. But maybe that's just that his mistakes got pointed out a lot since he was the whipping boy.

I hope that he plays awesome this year. But I will not be holding my breath.

[Mr.wizard]

Maybe it's possible that he's really good at winning in one particular way. But when teams got tape on him, they figured out how to stop that?

Seems to me like he was making a lot of mental mistakes last year. But maybe that's just that his mistakes got pointed out a lot since he was the whipping boy.

I hope that he plays awesome this year. But I will not be holding my breath.

or maybe he is good and suffered a serious knee injury and it affected his play?

[Joel Buchsbaum]

That is just a lie that he ripped in coverage before the injury, we were 5-0 when he got hurt and the defense was playing well. And his rookie season he had 2 picks and was excellent in coverage. The idea that they didn't know about Bush so there for didn't try to throw at him is a joke. Saying he used to be a fine blitzer is also laughable considering that was the weak part of his game and was used mostly in coverage.

Wrong. He was past tense a good blitzer. Why was it stopped? Because teams ran at him. He visibly declined in coverage in year TWO before he hurt his knee. Yes his team was playing well with Tuitt and Alualu protecting him and Ben still being " operational ".2

Stop using his knee injury for an excuse before and after it happened. He wasn't given a 5ht year option for a reason! He's weak vs the run, can't shed blocks worth a darn ( he wasn't asked to as a rookie ) and is useless coverage. Did I mention his lack of instincts and not working hard enough. Get with the program. He is what he is. Here are his stats.

Note he allowed 70.2 % of his passes complete on him when he was a rookie. This is very high, then the Steelers limited him in coverage. Go ahead you won't find many DB's or LB's who gave up that percentage in coverage. It because he's weak! Show me the others you find, if you can.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BushDe01.htm

[whisper]

Wrong. He was past tense a good blitzer. Why was it stopped? Because teams ran at him. He visibly declined in coverage in year TWO before he hurt his knee. Yes his team was playing well with Tuitt and Alualu protecting him and Ben still being " operational ".2

Stop using his knee injury for an excuse before and after it happened. He wasn't given a 5ht year option for a reason! He's weak vs the run, can't shed blocks worth a darn ( he wasn't asked to as a rookie ) and is useless coverage. Did I mention his lack of instincts and not working hard enough. Get with the program. He is what he is. Here are his stats.

Note he allowed 70.2 % of his passes compete on him when he was a rookie. This is very high, then they Steelers limited him in coverage

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...B/BushDe01.htm

Unfortunately, Hoge agrees with you, whether ridiculed for the concussions he suffered or not.

[Mr.wizard]

Wrong. He was past tense a good blitzer. Why was it stopped? Because teams ran at him. He visibly declined in coverage in year TWO before he hurt his knee. Yes his team was playing well with Tuitt and Alualu protecting him and Ben still being " operational ".2

Stop using his knee injury for an excuse before and after it happened. He wasn't given a 5ht year option for a reason! He's weak vs the run, can't shed blocks worth a darn ( he wasn't asked to as a rookie ) and is useless coverage. Did I mention his lack of instincts and not working hard enough. Get with the program. He is what he is. Here are his stats.

Note he allowed 70.2 % of his passes compete on him when he was a rookie. This is very high, then they Steelers limited him in coverage

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...B/BushDe01.htm

You are just making stuff up, he wasn't in "visible decline" before his knee injury, nobody thought that. Yes have a capable DL helped to protect him that's how the defense works!!! This is why it didn't matter who you put at linebacker last season, the results did not change!!!

[whisper]

You are just making stuff up, he wasn't in "visible decline" before his knee injury, nobody thought that. Yes have a capable DL helped to protect him that's how the defense works!!! This is why it didn't matter who you put at linebacker last season, the results did not change!!!

A former Pgh LB disagrees with you. Do you know more about playing LB than him as well?

https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/news/pittsburgh-steelers-linebacker-slams-devin-bush

[Joel Buchsbaum]

A former Pgh LB disagrees with you. Do you know more about playing LB than him as well?

https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/news...ams-devin-bush

Apparently he sees what he thinks he's like. And he won't reply to points made no matter how hard you try.

[Mr.wizard]

A former Pgh LB disagrees with you. Do you know more about playing LB than him as well?

https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/news...ams-devin-bush

Don't have to know about playing LB, this is about a knee injury. You are telling me that a guy who has spent his life playing football and working his ass off to become a first round pick suddenly just decided to stop trying before his first contract?

[Joel Buchsbaum]

You are just making stuff up, he wasn't in "visible decline" before his knee injury, nobody thought that. Yes have a capable DL helped to protect him that's how the defense works!!! This is why it didn't matter who you put at linebacker last season, the results did not change!!!

Once he lost those who we helping him keep clean, his security blanket was gone and his weakness was magnified. People ran right at him, Often he made tackles way beyond the line of scrimmage. I got tired of such linebackers.

As a rookie he allowed 67.6% of passes for 435 yards surrendered with 5 TD allowed. This sucks. Last year year was it was 70.2% Facts. He was ripped in coverage BEOFRE his Knee injury the next season AFTER it came. I make nothing up, dude check his stats and show me another LB this bad in coverage If you can't you might learn something. If this doesn't work for you try reading what Hoge and Shazier are saying

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BushDe01.htm

[Joel Buchsbaum]

Duplicate massage

[NorthCoast]

Once he lost those who we helping him keep clean, his security blanket was gone and his weakness was magnified. People ran right at him, Often he made tackles way beyond the line of scrimmage. I got red of such linebackers.

As a rookie he allowed 70.2% of his passes. Fact. Last year he allowed 5 TD's and 67.6% of passes allowed for 435 yards surrendered. He was ripped in coverage BEOFRE his Knee injury the next season AFTER it came. I make nothing up, dude check his stats and show men another LB this bad in coverage If you can't you might learn something. If this doesn't work for you try reading what Hoge and Shazier are saying

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...B/BushDe01.htm

The other Devin allowed 70.2% completion % in 2021, 80% the year before.

[Mr.wizard]

The other Devin allowed 70.2% completion % in 2021, 80% the year before.

Of course because they are typically defending short passes which have a high rate of completion.