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  • whatever
    Legend
    • Sep 2019
    • 5795

    So much for the Steelers always

    Drafting bpa or bpa at a position if need.
    How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?
  • Bawb the Revelator
    Pro Bowler
    • Jan 2022
    • 1975

    #2
    Originally posted by whatever
    Drafting bpa or bpa at a position if need.
    Cheer up, Bro. You could be my age and with any luck you will be:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry8CpIg2fvU
    Last edited by papillon; 05-01-2022, 10:39 PM.

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    • whatever
      Legend
      • Sep 2019
      • 5795

      #3
      This steeler organization has lost all of its identity.
      Draft for need now, draft guys with character issues, spend money on day one of FA, draft feel good players over quality.
      Things have definitely changed.
      How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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      • Bawb the Revelator
        Pro Bowler
        • Jan 2022
        • 1975

        #4
        Originally posted by whatever
        This steeler organization has lost all of its identity.
        Draft for need now, draft guys with character issues, spend money on day one of FA, draft feel good players over quality.
        Things have definitely changed.
        Other than the Connor Heywood draft possibility, I don't follow. Can you specify? Not that I know it all....

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        • Shawn
          Legend
          • Mar 2008
          • 15131

          #5
          Originally posted by whatever
          This steeler organization has lost all of its identity.
          Draft for need now, draft guys with character issues, spend money on day one of FA, draft feel good players over quality.
          Things have definitely changed.
          Settle down. Pickett was a reach but he may work out. No need to say the sky is falling.
          Trolls are people too.

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          • whatever
            Legend
            • Sep 2019
            • 5795

            #6
            Originally posted by Shawn
            Settle down. Pickett was a reach but he may work out. No need to say the sky is falling.
            I never said the sky is falling. Matter of fact, I never criticized this draft.
            The obvious point I am making is the identity that the Steelers had is gone.
            Their M.O. is gone.
            Our fans don’t have the luxury of saying, ‘we draft bpa, bpa at need, don’t spend in FA, never have cap room, don’t make moves day 1 of FA, stay away from character concerns, draft steeler types’.
            All those are long gone.
            How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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            • WindyCitySteel
              Legend
              • Nov 2011
              • 15684

              #7
              Who was the last BPA the Steelers drafted in round 1?

              It's always best at position of need.

              Pickens, Leal, and Austin, however - dayum.

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              • pfelix73
                Hall of Famer
                • Aug 2008
                • 3463

                #8
                Originally posted by whatever
                I never said the sky is falling. Matter of fact, I never criticized this draft.
                The obvious point I am making is the identity that the Steelers had is gone.
                Their M.O. is gone.
                Our fans don’t have the luxury of saying, ‘we draft bpa, bpa at need, don’t spend in FA, never have cap room, don’t make moves day 1 of FA, stay away from character concerns, draft steeler types’.
                All those are long gone.
                How can you say this? How do youo know they didn't take their BPA? I actually think they did, and had no choice but to take him there. He was projected to be the first QB taken and quite possibly as high as 6th or 7th. I just don't follow your logic. Now on the other hand, if Jordan Davis was still there, or even Hamilton was still there, then I'd def go with one of those others. In fact, I would've loved seeing them move in front of Baltimore and take Hamilton, but they stayed put and got a good player. I would doubt Wyatt or anyone else was higher on their draft board when they picked.

                Maybe, just maybe, their draft board looks different than yours? They are drafting and paying their players though. Not you.
                Last edited by pfelix73; 05-03-2022, 08:28 PM.
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                • feltdizz
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 27568

                  #9
                  Originally posted by whatever
                  I never said the sky is falling. Matter of fact, I never criticized this draft.
                  The obvious point I am making is the identity that the Steelers had is gone.
                  Their M.O. is gone.
                  Our fans don’t have the luxury of saying, ‘we draft bpa, bpa at need, don’t spend in FA, never have cap room, don’t make moves day 1 of FA, stay away from character concerns, draft steeler types’.
                  All those are long gone.
                  that’s a lot of stuff.

                  We use FA we just aren’t major players and don’t overspend in FA.

                  and Ben just retired so we will have a a little wiggle room with the cap.

                  and we never really stayed away from guys with character issues. people on here made up the high character thing after AB left but it was never true.

                  every year after the draft you make the same post about BPA and talk about what fans do or can no longer claim.

                  Its such a weird annual tradition
                  Last edited by feltdizz; 05-03-2022, 09:12 PM.
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                  • SteelerOfDeVille
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 9069

                    #10
                    It has always been BPA at a current (or upcoming) position of need. Otherwise, they would have drafted a QB during Ben's tenure or an RB during Bettis' tenure...

                    This year there were more obvious positions of need than normal...
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                    • whisper
                      Legend
                      • Mar 2020
                      • 9423

                      #11
                      Originally posted by whatever
                      This steeler organization has lost all of its identity.
                      Draft for need now, draft guys with character issues, spend money on day one of FA, draft feel good players over quality.
                      Things have definitely changed.
                      And who do you blame for the change? Art 2? Cool Shades?

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                      • Bawb the Revelator
                        Pro Bowler
                        • Jan 2022
                        • 1975

                        #12
                        Originally posted by SteelerOfDeVille
                        It has always been BPA at a current (or upcoming) position of need. Otherwise, they would have drafted a QB during Ben's tenure or an RB during Bettis' tenure...

                        This year there were more obvious positions of need than normal...
                        I'm clueless about Kenny as I've never seen him and barely heard of him until Draft season. Hamilton or Jordan Davis are the two I would have moved to get but otherwise I'm good with Kevin's and Mike's pick

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                        • flippy
                          Legend
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 17088

                          #13
                          I’m not sure I follow. Seems they got guys they liked at positions we needed to fill up until the Heyward pick which was the one I didn’t understand at all.
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                          • whisper
                            Legend
                            • Mar 2020
                            • 9423

                            #14
                            Originally posted by feltdizz
                            that’s a lot of stuff.

                            We use FA we just aren’t major players and don’t overspend in FA.

                            and Ben just retired so we will have a a little wiggle room with the cap.

                            and we never really stayed away from guys with character issues. people on here made up the high character thing after AB left but it was never true.

                            every year after the draft you make the same post about BPA and talk about what fans do or can no longer claim.

                            Its such a weird annual tradition
                            You must be a younger fan. Character issues used to mean something to this team.

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                            • feltdizz
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 27568

                              #15
                              Originally posted by whisper
                              You must be a younger fan. Character issues used to mean something to this team.
                              Noll had a player shoot at a cops in a helicopter. My dad was good friends with Ernie Holmes because he liked to party in Aliquippa.

                              Bam Morris sold weight the whole time he was in the NFL.

                              Deebo kicked the door in and assaulted his wife.

                              Big Ben..

                              We have never been a high character organization. We draft talent and if you are good you can get away with being a low character guy.

                              Born and raised in Pittsburgh in 73.. I know about a lot of stories that never made the news.
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                              Rats 16

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