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  • SteelerOfDeVille
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    • May 2008
    • 9069

    #46
    Originally posted by Steel Maniac
    I don’t think so; for example, if we didn’t go QB in the first round, the vast majority knows why. They know this QB class isn’t that great.
    I disagree. The team took the best RB on the board last year and a LOT of the board didn't like it. This team could take Jordan Davis and half the board would ask why they spent a first on a 2-down player.

    Some people are here simply to complain.
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    • Northern_Blitz
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      • Dec 2008
      • 24373

      #47
      Originally posted by SteelerOfDeVille
      I disagree. The team took the best RB on the board last year and a LOT of the board didn't like it. This team could take Jordan Davis and half the board would ask why they spent a first on a 2-down player.

      Some people are here simply to complain.
      Maybe I'm misremembering, but I think the average response on the board re: Najee was something like: "I think he was probably BPA, but man...I wish one of those OTs fell because I'd rather not take a RB in the 1st. Seems like a good player and a good kid off the field."

      I could just be projecting what my feeling was though.

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      • SteelerOfDeVille
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        • May 2008
        • 9069

        #48
        Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
        Maybe I'm misremembering, but I think the average response on the board re: Najee was something like: "I think he was probably BPA, but man...I wish one of those OTs fell because I'd rather not take a RB in the 1st. Seems like a good player and a good kid off the field."

        I could just be projecting what my feeling was though.
        There were definitely some that said, "RB can be grabbed later", due to positional value of RB these days. Mostly they were the Creed Humphrey crowd (who apparently didn't understand the positional value of C). Some wanted Tevin Jenkins. When Friermuth was taken in the 2nd and creed was passed on again, some folks heads exploded. LOL
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        • WindyCitySteel
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          • Nov 2011
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          #49
          Originally posted by SteelerOfDeVille
          There were definitely some that said, "RB can be grabbed later", due to positional value of RB these days. Mostly they were the Creed Humphrey crowd (who apparently didn't understand the positional value of C). Some wanted Tevin Jenkins. When Friermuth was taken in the 2nd and creed was passed on again, some folks heads exploded. LOL
          I'd trade Najee for Creed straight up in a heartbeat. The C anchors the OL. Could have gotten any of a number of backs to run through those holes.

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          • SteelerOfDeVille
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            • May 2008
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            #50
            Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
            I'd trade Najee for Creed straight up in a heartbeat. The C anchors the OL. Could have gotten any of a number of backs to run through those holes.
            dude, the team coulda gotten creed in the 2nd.. they DID NOT WANT HIM. He was such a bad fit for what they want out of their o-linemen. It woulda been like drafting an OLB who can't pass rush... just plain dumb. But, that's a whole other conversation...



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            • WindyCitySteel
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              • Nov 2011
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              #51
              Originally posted by SteelerOfDeVille
              dude, the team coulda gotten creed in the 2nd.. they DID NOT WANT HIM. He was such a bad fit for what they want out of their o-linemen. It woulda been like drafting an OLB who can't pass rush... just plain dumb. But, that's a whole other conversation...
              If you think a generational player doesn't fit your scheme, you need to change your scheme. Isn't that Tomlin's whole "red paint, paint the barn red" spiel?

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              • SteelerOfDeVille
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                • May 2008
                • 9069

                #52
                Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
                If you think a generational player doesn't fit your scheme, you need to change your scheme. Isn't that Tomlin's whole "red paint, paint the barn red" spiel?
                He's a mauler, for sure. I don't know about generational, but i hear ya.

                But, he doesn't move like the Steelers preferred. They like their C to get out in front and lead sweeps and traps and such. Kendrick Green struggled, but with his selection, you may not have seen it beforehand, but you should NOW easily see what they're looking for - the next Pouncey, who's agile, etc. That's not him.

                Some guys are better zone blockers, some better power scheme. You have to know their strengths, your teams plans and marry them. Bad fits are poor drafting.
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                • Oviedo
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                  • May 2008
                  • 23824

                  #53
                  Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
                  If you think a generational player doesn't fit your scheme, you need to change your scheme. Isn't that Tomlin's whole "red paint, paint the barn red" spiel?
                  You change your scheme for a QB...not a Center
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                  • WindyCitySteel
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                    • Nov 2011
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                    #54
                    Originally posted by Oviedo
                    You change your scheme for a QB...not a Center
                    They did for Pouncey.

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                    • Joel Buchsbaum
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                      • Jan 2021
                      • 7744

                      #55
                      Originally posted by SteelerOfDeVille
                      He's a mauler, for sure. I don't know about generational, but i hear ya.

                      But, he doesn't move like the Steelers preferred. They like their C to get out in front and lead sweeps and traps and such. Kendrick Green struggled, but with his selection, you may not have seen it beforehand, but you should NOW easily see what they're looking for - the next Pouncey, who's agile, etc. That's not him.

                      Some guys are better zone blockers, some better power scheme. You have to know their strengths, your teams plans and marry them. Bad fits are poor drafting.
                      Green won't be starting next year. A very bad draft pick, and us fans know who was on the board. No more wasting draft picks.
                      Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                      Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                      *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                      • NJ-STEELER
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                        • May 2008
                        • 12563

                        #56
                        Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                        Cry.
                        Willis in the first. too much of a project.

                        drafting front 7 in top 2 rounds.
                        this is still the biggest strength of our team. With or without tuiit.
                        why did we trade 2 picks for louder milk last year if they didn’t think he was a good prospect.
                        *****cough****

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                        • NorthCoast
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                          • Sep 2008
                          • 26636

                          #57
                          Overall, not crying but sobbing a bit.

                          • PIck 1; I wasn't really in the 'draft a QB this year' crowd but OK, they got the best QB in the class. I'll be patient and see what happens. Canada will have no excuses since he got a QB that can run his offense to a T.
                          • Pick 2; A WR was clearly a need but I was shocked at how quickly the top ones were snapped up this year. I think 7 in the first round?! Pickens is OK. Not sure he is a #1WR from what I have read but probably the best one available without trading up.
                          • Pick 3; it's funny (in a sad way) but it seemed every player I was coveting was picked just a few picks before the Steelers. Was hoping for Jones to fall to the Steelers.


                          The Steelers just seemed to be in no-man's land at their draft position. The drop in talent at each round seemed to be steep just a few picks before the Steelers. And they clearly were uninterested in moving around.

                          So just a little ho-hum so far. Hoping for a stellar Day 3...

                          Oh, and there is always free agency after cut downs. Should be some good vet talent available and the Steelers still have cap space.
                          Last edited by NorthCoast; 04-30-2022, 07:24 AM.

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