Poll: Rank MTrubisky vs 2022 QB Class

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  • NorthCoast
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    • Sep 2008
    • 26636

    #31
    Originally posted by flippy
    Probably true.

    I was always suspect of a QB coming from UNC, but you never know. I do wonder if Mitch impacts what people end up thinking about Howell. He had a lot of hype. I think he's got about the same potential as Mitch. Howell is a better runner, not quite as athletic, maybe comparable arms. Odds are kinda against both of them, but it seems like Colbert likes Howell and I suspect he probably liked Mitch too because they feel similar to me.

    I really hope we don't go Howell in the 1st and double down on similar QBs playing the odds that maybe one works out.
    And that's where I got a problem. If Howell is little better than Trubisky why would you draft him? Why not wait for something better in 2023??
    Using precious draft capital for more of the same doesn't make sense.

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    • feltdizz
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      • May 2008
      • 27531

      #32
      Originally posted by NorthCoast
      And that's where I got a problem. If Howell is little better than Trubisky why would you draft him? Why not wait for something better in 2023??
      Using precious draft capital for more of the same doesn't make sense.
      I don’t see any team drafting a QB they don’t think is better than what they already have unless its a really good QB who is about to retire.
      Steelers 27
      Rats 16

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      • Steel Maniac
        Banned
        • Apr 2017
        • 19472

        #33
        Originally posted by flippy
        I don't know what comparisons to believe.

        I've heard Corral and Howell are the next Drew Brees. That makes them no brainers.

        I've heard Willis is Steve McNair or Jalen Hurts a couple times.

        Pretty much every one of these guys is compared to multiple pro bowlers/all pros and a couple duds/busts.

        It's hard to make sense out of it all. And then add in the fact when you think there's a couple stud QBs (which none of these guys really are), some of them end up not working out anyway. The odds are really stacked against all of these guys succeeding.
        Well, Colbert has done his homework on these guys. So by his actions , we’ll know soon exactly what he thinks of these guys.

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        • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
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          • May 2008
          • 10281

          #34
          Originally posted by Steel Maniac
          Well, Colbert has done his homework on these guys. So by his actions , we’ll know soon exactly what he thinks of these guys.
          I hope so. What I mean by that is that I hope KC isn't so clouded in judgment that he is desperate to leave his mark with *a* QB in this draft instead of *the* QB that this team needs.
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          • Northern_Blitz
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            • Dec 2008
            • 24373

            #35
            Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
            I hope so. What I mean by that is that I hope KC isn't so clouded in judgment that he is desperate to leave his mark with *a* QB in this draft instead of *the* QB that this team needs.
            This.........

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            • Sugar
              Hall of Famer
              • Oct 2008
              • 3700

              #36
              Originally posted by Steel Maniac
              Well, Colbert has done his homework on these guys. So by his actions , we’ll know soon exactly what he thinks of these guys.
              This way, no fan will be able to say that the team didn't give these QB's a chance when the Steelers don't draft any of them.

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              • SteelerOfDeVille
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                • May 2008
                • 9069

                #37
                Originally posted by feltdizz
                I voted.. I have him 4th.

                I would put Ridder, Pickett and Sam Howell ahead of him based solely on college performance.

                I said it before and I will say it again. Mitch Trubisky was severely over-drafted by the Bears.
                this right here is the trouble with grading him... I put Corral ahead of all of those guys... LOL
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                • SteelerOfDeVille
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                  • May 2008
                  • 9069

                  #38
                  Originally posted by flippy
                  I don't know what comparisons to believe.

                  I've heard Corral and Howell are the next Drew Brees. That makes them no brainers.

                  I've heard Willis is Steve McNair or Jalen Hurts a couple times.

                  Pretty much every one of these guys is compared to multiple pro bowlers/all pros and a couple duds/busts.

                  It's hard to make sense out of it all. And then add in the fact when you think there's a couple stud QBs (which none of these guys really are), some of them end up not working out anyway. The odds are really stacked against all of these guys succeeding.
                  In Willis, I see Kordell Stewart... Not very accurate, but can be electric with the right person calling plays. Ridder also has some accuracy issues and i struggle there.

                  I see Howell as "what the browns HOPED they were getting with Baker" - just mentally tougher

                  In Corral, I'm feeling more gunslinger, given the opportunity. He's got some zip on that ball and supposedly is a crazy competitor... Most will call me crazy, but I'm feeling more Favre-ish
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                  • flippy
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                    • Dec 2008
                    • 17088

                    #39
                    Originally posted by SteelerOfDeVille
                    In Willis, I see Kordell Stewart... Not very accurate, but can be electric with the right person calling plays. Ridder also has some accuracy issues and i struggle there.

                    I see Howell as "what the browns HOPED they were getting with Baker" - just mentally tougher

                    In Corral, I'm feeling more gunslinger, given the opportunity. He's got some zip on that ball and supposedly is a crazy competitor... Most will call me crazy, but I'm feeling more Favre-ish
                    I think I change my mind every time I watch some new highlights. Bottom line is we’re only getting a small glimpse of these guys broadly.

                    I think I’ve decided I like Corral’s quick release. I also could be sold on Howell having the most potential but he played at UNC and he needs some work on his release.

                    I have a real hard time finding a lot I like about Willis beyond his physical skills and personality.

                    I think Ridder needs some work but could also be the QB that has “it”.

                    And lately I’ve been selling myself on taking Jack Coan in the 7th who I’m starting to convince myself might still have some room to grow and could be the sneaky QB that ends up working out.

                    And now that everyone else is souring on Kenny P, I’m finding more things I like about him even though he used to frustrate me watching Pitt.

                    I dunno. It’s info overload.
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                    • NorthCoast
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                      • Sep 2008
                      • 26636

                      #40
                      Originally posted by SteelerOfDeVille
                      this right here is the trouble with grading him... I put Corral ahead of all of those guys... LOL
                      Corral is growing on me, but only in the 2nd rd. He's been nicked up in college though. Wish he was 20 lbs heavier and an inch or two taller.

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                      • NorthCoast
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                        • Sep 2008
                        • 26636

                        #41
                        Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                        I hope so. What I mean by that is that I hope KC isn't so clouded in judgment that he is desperate to leave his mark with *a* QB in this draft instead of *the* QB that this team needs.
                        Hoping maybe Tomlin gets a bigger say on the pick this season and he keeps Colbert in check. But it could be just wishful thinking.

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                        • Joel Buchsbaum
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                          • Jan 2021
                          • 7744

                          #42
                          Originally posted by NorthCoast
                          Hoping maybe Tomlin gets a bigger say on the pick this season and he keeps Colbert in check. But it could be just wishful thinking.

                          I do not . Colbert knows what he's doing, Tolmiln does not especially on offense.. Colbert is boarerline HOF GM. Its tough to make the HOF as a GM. Shouldn't be.
                          Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                          Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                          *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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