The ONE player you would trade up for?

[SteelBucks]

As much as I would like Hamilton, the Steelers have too many areas that need to be addressed to give away draft capital. So, I have to go with let the draft come to you and if you get a good deal to move back from 1.20 take it, otherwise, draft your board and fix many issues.

Pappy

I like your mock. Yes please, Olave in round 1.

[SteelerOfDeVille]

Who is that one player you would use the draft capital to go up ten spots to #10?

For me it's Kyle Hamilton. He is worth a Troy P-like draft day move

Combined with Minkah we'd have the best Safety combo in the NFL

they both freelance a little - while it's what makes them special, i honestly think it would be a bad mix. Ryan Clark doesn't get enough credit for having the awareness to go "oh crap, there goes Troy again!" and cover larger areas of the field.

I wouldn't go more than a handful of slots up, but Davis/Wyatt, I'd move up for either. I also wouldn't be opposed to going after one of the top CB

[SteelerOfDeVille]

As much as I would like Hamilton, the Steelers have too many areas that need to be addressed to give away draft capital. So, I have to go with let the draft come to you and if you get a good deal to move back from 1.20 take it, otherwise, draft your board and fix many issues.

Pappy

Pappy, I think it depends.

Totally, hypothetical, but say you're going up to 18 and grabbing Davis and that cost say a 4th. IMO, you can get "4th round talent" in free agency after the draft

While I wouldn't jump into the top 10, I don't see a problem with moving up a few slots if the guy is THE guy

[SteelerOfDeVille]

Who is that one player you would use the draft capital to go up ten spots to #10?

For me it's Kyle Hamilton. He is worth a Troy P-like draft day move

Combined with Minkah we'd have the best Safety combo in the NFL

The more i think about this - if his offseason workouts have caused him to drop as far as some say? I'd move up 8-10 spots for him, without question... I wouldn't go to top 5, but if it was say 10-12? Sign me up.

[flippy]

The more i think about this - if his offseason workouts have caused him to drop as far as some say? I'd move up 8-10 spots for him, without question... I wouldn't go to top 5, but if it was say 10-12? Sign me up.

I wouldn't call his speed in shorts a red flag, but it could be a little concerning given his relative size. Given his length, it already has to be a little harder for him to change direction like the more compact guys.

He also looks like he might be able to carry 250lbs and is built more like a LB than a S.

Maybe the size is irrelevant, but he feels a little tall for a S and how does he do if you are up against a passing team with lots of WR talent and they get smaller quicker guys lined up against him? It possibly works out, but I haven't seen a 6'4 S locking guys down in coverage and that's the most important part of the S position.

[JUST-PLAIN-NASTY]

I wouldn’t trade for anyone. But I’m not Tomlin or KC. Breadcrumbs...What do I think will happen? Some Steeler fans will be sour for awhile.

They are going to #5 from Giants for Willis if there. #20, 2023 1st & 3rd, 2022 swap 3rd for 4th & a 5th from NYG. Worst case. KC retires with Steelers next QB. Two QB Coaches while he sits this year & learns. Hopefully we all forget about it when he takes the field. Again...Not me but Dam connecting the dots!

[Oviedo]

I wouldn’t trade for anyone. But I’m not Tomlin or KC. Breadcrumbs...What do I think will happen? Some Steeler fans will be sour for awhile.

They are going to #5 from Giants for Willis if there. #20, 2023 1st & 3rd, 2022 swap 3rd for 4th & a 5th from NYG. Worst case. KC retires with Steelers next QB. Two QB Coaches while he sits this year & learns. Hopefully we all forget about it when he takes the field. Again...Not me but Dam connecting the dots!

"Some fans" will be sour no matter what they do. Their lives are one big continuous suck on a lemon.

[Oviedo]

I’d trade up for Gardner, Stingley, or Davis.

I think Hill is going to be the better pro S because of his quickness and ability to cover and think he could be available at 20.

I did a mock recently and Cross dropped to 20 which surprised me and Id probably consider him or the kid from NC State if we could get either.

Stingley is a big injury risk. I wouldn't touch him

[WindyCitySteel]

I wouldn’t trade for anyone. But I’m not Tomlin or KC. Breadcrumbs...What do I think will happen? Some Steeler fans will be sour for awhile.

They are going to #5 from Giants for Willis if there. #20, 2023 1st & 3rd, 2022 swap 3rd for 4th & a 5th from NYG. Worst case. KC retires with Steelers next QB. Two QB Coaches while he sits this year & learns. Hopefully we all forget about it when he takes the field. Again...Not me but Dam connecting the dots!

I keep hearing he is on a mission to do just that, but shouldn't the next GM who is going to have to live with the pick for at least five years be the guy who picks his franchise QB? If the Steelers are planning to go outside the organization, I can't imagine they'll take a QB, or if they do, that anyone outside will want to take the job unless he was also in love with the prospect.

Maybe the "go out with a bang" Colbert move is to trade up for a blue-chip prospect like Gardner, Hamilton, or Davis.

[JUST-PLAIN-NASTY]

I keep hearing he is on a mission to do just that, but shouldn't the next GM who is going to have to live with the pick for at least five years be the guy who picks his franchise QB? If the Steelers are planning to go outside the organization, I can't imagine they'll take a QB, or if they do, that anyone outside will want to take the job unless he was also in love with the prospect.

Maybe the "go out with a bang" Colbert move is to trade up for a blue-chip prospect like Gardner, Hamilton, or Davis.

I would say 100% yes in an organization that fired the GM. The new GM would want his guys. Here’s the Steeler Angle. The new GM is actively involved in the QB search. He is in the building. We can leave this here...But I believe that is the case.

I’m not for drafting a QB. But I don’t have the info & tools the FO has. The Breadcrumbs are hard not to follow. I believe There was a reason for active FA. If Willis gets past the Lions & the Steelers reach is long...I think they are going to get him. I don’t think it stops there. If they don’t get Willis...Their T-Rex reach will be for Ridder. And it will be “ok...let’s see what happens.” For me...I’ll believe in the pick. Wouldn’t be what I do but if they believe...They will be working the phones.

Yes...The only card not shown yet is S. But even if you go into the draft without Edmunds or HB...There is a starter in first 2 rounds...Maybe even
the 3rd. Brisker in 2nd May be the guy. As far as Davis...I’m ok if he’s the #20. I’m higher on Travis Jones. Much better hand usage & violent. Pushes pocket and better play speed on film. I’ve seen Davis too many times play tired & pad level high. Gets handled 1-1. Condition & Coaching can help that but to me he’s a 2nd round player with a 1st round combine.

[NorthCoast]

I wouldn’t trade for anyone. But I’m not Tomlin or KC. Breadcrumbs...What do I think will happen? Some Steeler fans will be sour for awhile.

They are going to #5 from Giants for Willis if there. #20, 2023 1st & 3rd, 2022 swap 3rd for 4th & a 5th from NYG. Worst case. KC retires with Steelers next QB. Two QB Coaches while he sits this year & learns. Hopefully we all forget about it when he takes the field. Again...Not me but Dam connecting the dots!

I would be sour and very disappointed to give away that much for a project at QB. The first round pick should be as close to a can't miss as possible.

Here are the positions drafted in Rd 1 by the Steelers beginning from the Bill Cowher era;

6 - LB
5 - DB
4 - WR
3 - G
2 - OT
2 - TE
2 - DT
2 - RB
1 - QB
1 - C

Sidenotes;

• every single LB taken in Rd 1 was during the Mike Tomlin era, none by Cowher.
• two of the 3 Gs ended up pro bowlers
• only one DB ended up as a pro bowler (and HOF)
• none of the WRs were pro bowlers

[Steel Maniac]

I would be sour and very disappointed to give away that much for a project at QB. The first round pick should be as close to a can't miss as possible.

Here are the positions drafted in Rd 1 by the Steelers beginning from the Bill Cowher era;

6 - LB
5 - DB
4 - WR
3 - G
2 - OT
2 - TE
2 - DT
2 - RB
1 - QB
1 - C

Sidenotes;

• every single LB taken in Rd 1 was during the Mike Tomlin era, none by Cowher.
• two of the 3 Gs ended up pro bowlers
• only one DB ended up as a pro bowler (and HOF)
• none of the WRs were pro bowlers

Thanks northcoast. Much appreciated. The smart move is to fix the other holes and wait til next year to make a qb move in the draft.

[SteelerOfDeVille]

I wouldn't call his speed in shorts a red flag, but it could be a little concerning given his relative size. Given his length, it already has to be a little harder for him to change direction like the more compact guys.

He also looks like he might be able to carry 250lbs and is built more like a LB than a S.

Maybe the size is irrelevant, but he feels a little tall for a S and how does he do if you are up against a passing team with lots of WR talent and they get smaller quicker guys lined up against him? It possibly works out, but I haven't seen a 6'4 S locking guys down in coverage and that's the most important part of the S position.

Wouldn't that make him ideal for covering TE, who typically aren't 4.4 guys anyway.

You play him in a zone, let him cover TE/RB and help in run support.

Moreover, sometimes instinct and reaction time help to make up for 40 time... That's why Will Gay and his pedestrian 40 time played a decade in the league.

[SteelerOfDeVille]

At present - if Hamilton makes it to 12, my money is on the team making that trade and getting him. And I don't think I'd complain one bit

[Northern_Blitz]

I keep hearing he is on a mission to do just that, but shouldn't the next GM who is going to have to live with the pick for at least five years be the guy who picks his franchise QB? If the Steelers are planning to go outside the organization, I can't imagine they'll take a QB, or if they do, that anyone outside will want to take the job unless he was also in love with the prospect.

Maybe the "go out with a bang" Colbert move is to trade up for a blue-chip prospect like Gardner, Hamilton, or Davis.

I think picking a QB because it's Colbert's last year would be among the worst processes you could have for making a decision.

I hope that we draft this year in the same way we have for the rest of Colbert's tenure.

Make the pick because you think it's the best pick you can make. Not because you want to glory of picking the next QB as you ride into the sunset. But who knows...we gave Ben last year.