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  • Oviedo
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 23826

    Effects of Haskins' tragic death

    The tragic and untimely death of Haskins may change the thinking as we sit a little over two weeks out from the draft.

    I always thought that the team would be happy to sit with Trubisky, Rudolph and Haskins for 2022. If they took a QB, then I thought Rudolph would be trade bait. That all seems out the window after the unfortunate events of this past weekend.

    I still don't want a 1st Round QB, but I think we have to believe that we will see a QB drafted (the default #3) and Rudolph is staying all season long as primary back up.
    "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"
  • Northern_Blitz
    Legend
    • Dec 2008
    • 24387

    #2
    While I think his death is clearly a tragedy, I don't think it will have much impact on what the team does. And the value of him as a person or his life isn't measured in the impact on the football team IMO.

    I think he was almost certainly going to be the 3rd QB. And my understanding is that the 3rd QB doesn't get much work during the regular season (outside of injuries).

    I guess the potential difference would be if him and Mason were pretty close, then we could have tried to trade one for picks and rolled with Mitch, Mason / Haskins, Rookie? / Other Arm.

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    • Chucktownsteeler
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 6847

      #3
      This is a tragedy and I believe the class organization that the Steelers are this topic won't be breeched for a couple of weeks in respect to the Haskins family.

      Also, Dobbs signed with the Browns so we lost (2) QBs within 48 hour timeframe. I look for a minimum (2) and perhaps even (3) QBs to be brought in via FA and/ or draft. Maybe they bring the Duck back for a camp arm. Who knows, we are in somewhat uncharted waters and this has undoubtedly shaken the organization and roster.

      Prayers continue to the family.
      Help me find my post proving I am a Yinzer!

      I will tip my hat to Tomlin if he has a winning record and the team makes the play-offs in the upcoming season.

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      • Northern_Blitz
        Legend
        • Dec 2008
        • 24387

        #4
        Originally posted by Oviedo
        The tragic and untimely death of Haskins may change the thinking as we sit a little over two weeks out from the draft.

        I always thought that the team would be happy to sit with Trubisky, Rudolph and Haskins for 2022. If they took a QB, then I thought Rudolph would be trade bait. That all seems out the window after the unfortunate events of this past weekend.

        I still don't want a 1st Round QB, but I think we have to believe that we will see a QB drafted (the default #3) and Rudolph is staying all season long as primary back up.
        I'd rather pick cheap vets or a UDFA than use a mid round draft pick on a QB on a guy who has virtually no chance of being a starter. This is why I was against the Dobbs and Mason picks when they were made.

        Those mid-round picks have a much higher chance of impacting the team if they aren't used on QBs IMO.

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        • Iron City Inc.
          Hall of Famer
          • Jun 2013
          • 3253

          #5
          We may pick up a qb real late. Chances of either 7th rounder sticking are not good. Perhaps we take a shot with a Jack Coan very late in the draft. Notre Dame kid has a good arm and could be worth a flier. If not we'll grab someone as a f/a and at the very least grab a camp arm for Latrobe.
          I'm still sick over this whole thing.

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          • WindyCitySteel
            Legend
            • Nov 2011
            • 15684

            #6
            I honestly don't think he was going to make it out of camp. The Steelers are drafting a QB and I think Mason will back up Trubisky in 2022.

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            • NorthCoast
              Legend
              • Sep 2008
              • 26643

              #7
              Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
              I honestly don't think he was going to make it out of camp. The Steelers are drafting a QB and I think Mason will back up Trubisky in 2022.
              I agree. The Steelers will continue with their plan and pick up a QB in the draft or later.

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              • Chucktownsteeler
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 6847

                #8
                Still need to add at least (2). May even think about bringing the Duck back for a camp arm.

                Maybe we scout the USFL.
                Help me find my post proving I am a Yinzer!

                I will tip my hat to Tomlin if he has a winning record and the team makes the play-offs in the upcoming season.

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                • Steel Maniac
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2017
                  • 19472

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                  I'd rather pick cheap vets or a UDFA than use a mid round draft pick on a QB on a guy who has virtually no chance of being a starter. This is why I was against the Dobbs and Mason picks when they were made.

                  Those mid-round picks have a much higher chance of impacting the team if they aren't used on QBs IMO.
                  I agree. I think we make a move for a vet later in free agency and keep it moving.

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                  • hawaiiansteel
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 35655

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Oviedo
                    I still don't want a 1st Round QB.
                    I don't necessarily want one either, but the way the Steelers have done their due diligence they sure have acted like they're prepared to pick one.

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                    • kindlecatsb'ng
                      Pro Bowler
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 1524

                      #11
                      Mary Kay Cabot, in Cleveland, keeps propogating the information that the Steelers would "pounce" on getting Baker Mayfield if the Browns just released him. It was on a podcast from Cleveland.com.
                      I hope the Steelers do not make that move.

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                      • flippy
                        Legend
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 17088

                        #12
                        Originally posted by kindlecatsb'ng
                        Mary Kay Cabot, in Cleveland, keeps propogating the information that the Steelers would "pounce" on getting Baker Mayfield if the Browns just released him. It was on a podcast from Cleveland.com.
                        I hope the Steelers do not make that move.

                        https://www.cleveland.com/orange-and...-mary-kay.html

                        If released, I'd jump on Baker. In the playoffs against us, I thought he looked phenomenal.

                        I really think he played injured in the last year and has unlimited upside. Not a fan of the small QBs, but I think he has "it" and if in the right place and used appropriately and healthy can have success. Cleveland should have been the perfect spot with the Oline and running game, but they really fudged him up worse than Chicago did Trubisky.
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                        • NorthCoast
                          Legend
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 26643

                          #13
                          Originally posted by flippy
                          If released, I'd jump on Baker. In the playoffs against us, I thought he looked phenomenal.

                          I really think he played injured in the last year and has unlimited upside. Not a fan of the small QBs, but I think he has "it" and if in the right place and used appropriately and healthy can have success. Cleveland should have been the perfect spot with the Oline and running game, but they really fudged him up worse than Chicago did Trubisky.
                          Have to disagree here flippy. It's not his game that is the problem, it's everything else. There was a great writeup I came across recently that described exactly why some teams won't pull the trigger on Mayfield. It boils down to this; Mayfield has a greater interest in his 'brand' than he does in being a team/franchise leader. The commercials, magazine covers, social media all scream of a guy that might not be centered on the team's interest but rather his own. Even in his losses, he tries to minimize his failings to protect his image. Several team execs point to that with hesitancy about signing him to franchise QB money. I'll post the writeup if I can find it.
                          Last edited by NorthCoast; 04-12-2022, 07:30 AM.

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                          • flippy
                            Legend
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 17088

                            #14
                            Originally posted by NorthCoast
                            Have to disagree here flippy. It's not his game that is the problem, it's everything else. There was a great writeup I came across recently that described exactly why some teams won't pull the trigger on Mayfield. It boils down to this; Mayfield has a greater interest in his 'brand' than he does in being a team/franchise leader. The commercials, magazine covers, social media all scream of a guy that might not be centered on the team's interest but rather his own. Even in his losses, he tries to minimize his failings to protect his image. Several team execs point to that with hesitancy about signing him to franchise QB money. I'll post the writeup if I can find it.
                            I'm not doubting this is the issue. I've seen the commercials, but I don't really follow Baker beyond that. Have just seen him play a few times and have seen that he can be very effective sometimes while not others. Makes me think someone could help him channel the good?
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                            • Oviedo
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 23826

                              #15
                              Originally posted by flippy
                              If released, I'd jump on Baker. In the playoffs against us, I thought he looked phenomenal.

                              I really think he played injured in the last year and has unlimited upside. Not a fan of the small QBs, but I think he has "it" and if in the right place and used appropriately and healthy can have success. Cleveland should have been the perfect spot with the Oline and running game, but they really fudged him up worse than Chicago did Trubisky.
                              im torn…if we didn’t sign Trubisky I’d sign him

                              however we don’t need a QB controversy. They never work out and usually divide the team

                              i’ll stay with Trubisky. He lacks the ego and pouting of Mayfield
                              "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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