OT: Stephon Diggs latest WR to cash in

[crushedspirit]

Too many times in the NFL I see teams paying some of those skilled positions inflated contracts based on past production, and they rarely ever match what they're paid going forward.

[feltdizz]

It's definitely one of the best shows and it kills me waiting to see the next episode even though I know what's going to happen.

Clearly it was Magic. But without Buss, I'm not sure they draft him cause Jerry West didn't seem to want him.

And without McKinney, does Magic ever get into the right system? And it kinda seems McKinney was an afterthought, but without him is Kareem the central figure for the Lakers?

It's almost like there's too many little accidents that make everything come together.

And I keep wonder how much is just for the sake of the story. Like Jerry T controlled by the mob? Kobe being a baby and attending Magic's first game was kinda weird. The Jeanie angle seems to really be getting pressed hard.

Whatever, it's a great show. And it does kinda tie into a lot of the convos people around here have.

A few things about the show and then I will get back to football.

McKinney seemed like he didn’t want Kareem because he was slowing the game down and didn’t want to run uptempo all game.

Buss was definitely instrumental in getting Magic to the Lakers. I don’t even think he buys the team if Magic wasn’t available.

McKinney def gets credit for that uptempo to. That was revolutionary and does Michael Cooper make the team if he doesn’t get to showcase his high flying finishes in transition?

The Tark mob connection was real. His partner wasn’t killed as a threat but he was found in a car trunk filled with bullets but it was due to his gambling debts.

Kobe’s dad played 32 minutes in the home opener. There is no evidence Kobe was there but he was 1 years old at the time.

Jeanie Buss is a big part of the story because she was a major influence and eventually because team president.

There are a few sites that fact check after each episode. Of course some of it is embellished for TV but a lot of these things actually happened.

Here is a good one that fact checks after each episode. https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/...west-pat-riley

[Northern_Blitz]

It's easy if you invest draft capital in the position. The Steelers don't spend 1st round picks at WR, get some decent 2s and 3s, but no top guys.

Packers and Chiefs can get legit #1 WRs on rookie deals and spend elsewhere.

We invest lots of draft capital at WR, just not 1st round.

We had 3 second rounders and one 3rd on the team last year.

It's not like everyone was a 6th like AB.

This was a good plan with a good QB IMO. Don't spend money on 2nd contract, but churn young and cheap talent. Let the QB elevate the WRs.

[flippy]

A few things about the show and then I will get back to football.

McKinney seemed like he didn’t want Kareem because he was slowing the game down and didn’t want to run uptempo all game.

Buss was definitely instrumental in getting Magic to the Lakers. I don’t even think he buys the team if Magic wasn’t available.

McKinney def gets credit for that uptempo to. That was revolutionary and does Michael Cooper make the team if he doesn’t get to showcase his high flying finishes in transition?

The Tark mob connection was real. His partner wasn’t killed as a threat but he was found in a car trunk filled with bullets but it was due to his gambling debts.

Kobe’s dad played 32 minutes in the home opener. There is no evidence Kobe was there but he was 1 years old at the time.

Jeanie Buss is a big part of the story because she was a major influence and eventually because team president.

There are a few sites that fact check after each episode. Of course some of it is embellished for TV but a lot of these things actually happened.

Here is a good one that fact checks after each episode. https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/...west-pat-riley

Thx for the link!!

I definitely remember some of it but I do keep wondering how much is real vs made for tv. I half heard the real Magic calling it out for inaccuracies and saying he wouldn’t watch it. Might be overblown, but it’s out there.

Any way it all seems relevant in times of change. Not sure we’re the team setting all the new standards and breaking ground in the NFL right now, but it would be awesome if we got a GM that brought something revolutionary along the lines of the showtime.

[flippy]

We invest lots of draft capital at WR, just not 1st round.

We had 3 second rounders and one 3rd on the team last year.

It's not like everyone was a 6th like AB.

This was a good plan with a good QB IMO. Don't spend money on 2nd contract, but churn young and cheap talent. Let the QB elevate the WRs.

I do wonder if we pick guys in certain rounds because of future contract prices. Like Edmunds or Najee as 1st rounders knowing that too S and RBs are going to be worth less on the second contract and we might be able to keep them longer if they work out.

[feltdizz]

Thx for the link!!

I definitely remember some of it but I do keep wondering how much is real vs made for tv. I half heard the real Magic calling it out for inaccuracies and saying he wouldn’t watch it. Might be overblown, but it’s out there.

Any way it all seems relevant in times of change. Not sure we’re the team setting all the new standards and breaking ground in the NFL right now, but it would be awesome if we got a GM that brought something revolutionary along the lines of the showtime.

Magic is working on his own documentary for Apple+

I’m sure players are upset but even with Michael Jordans doc you had former players saying some of it was bullsh#t.

Horace Grant said it was BS. Pippen was furious, Harper and others voiced their displeasure as well.

Whether its satire or first hand its still going to have gaps because whoever is in charge is going to make themselves look good or better than others.

So I actually appreciate this show and the way they are showing the warts of all the people involved.

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

Thx for the link!!

I definitely remember some of it but I do keep wondering how much is real vs made for tv. I half heard the real Magic calling it out for inaccuracies and saying he wouldn’t watch it. Might be overblown, but it’s out there.

Any way it all seems relevant in times of change. Not sure we’re the team setting all the new standards and breaking ground in the NFL right now, but it would be awesome if we got a GM that brought something revolutionary along the lines of the showtime.

There is a fine line between revolutionary and crackpot:

Jerry Buss......Jerry Jones

[WindyCitySteel]

There is a fine line between revolutionary and crackpot:

Jerry Buss......Jerry Jones

Jones won 3 Super Bowls in 4 seasons.

[Northern_Blitz]

I do wonder if we pick guys in certain rounds because of future contract prices. Like Edmunds or Najee as 1st rounders knowing that too S and RBs are going to be worth less on the second contract and we might be able to keep them longer if they work out.

I could see part of this (a) being intentional and part being (b) a combination of us liking to guy guys we think are 1st or 2nd best at their position and picking late means that the best guys at the most expensive positions are generally gone.

[feltdizz]

Jones won 3 Super Bowls in 4 seasons.

thanks to Jimmy Johnson building those teams through the draft.

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

Jones won 3 Super Bowls in 4 seasons.

And fired the guy responsible.