Only two college QBs improved in their last season

[Dwinsgames]

Two of the top six prospects, that is. The rest took a tumble, some in Darnold-esque fashion. College QB ratings in their last two seasons:

Pickett: 129.6, 165.3
Ridder: 152.9, 158.7
Strong: 160.6, 157.0
Corral: 177.6, 155.3
Howell: 179.1, 154.2
Willis: 155.8, 151.1

If you're going to cite supporting cast, allow me to retort - do you want a QB that needs to be propped up by said cast, or one that elevates it?

5th year sr is like a college freshman going back to high school so throw Pickett out ... now what ...

and you wanna toss out supporting cast only because it doesn't fit your narrative how "democrat" of you ...

so a guy who does more in year 3 that is less than years 2 or year 1 but was better on average with all 3 years than 5 years of someone else takes a hit over 1 year but the guy doesnt take a hit for his first 4 of 5 years GTFO with that nonsense

you are speaking specifically about howell and we all know it because Howell was better on average at age 18-19-20 than Pickett period ... but you want us to forget about how good he was as a freshman and sophomore and only want us to think about the 5th year SR that wasnt any good his freshman , sophomore , junior or senior years it took his 5th year to be a decent QB ..again gtfo ....

Howell better completion percentage career 63.8 than Pickett 62.4
Howell better average QB rating 164.2 than Pickett 136.3
Howell more yards per attempt 9.2 than Pickett 7.3
Howell 93 td passes in 3 years Pickett 81 in 5 years

but lets forget the facts because you want Mr Lady Hands ? no thanks

[feltdizz]

Not sure why Picketts 5th year bothers people.

Players redshirt all the time, players get held back in HS all the time. Who cares. On w you hit the NFL you are playing against guys in their late 20’s and some on their 30’s.

If you can sharpen your game as a 5th year instead of riding pine as a rookie in the NFL why not do it? Especially if you end up being drafted first round.

Howell may be legit or maybe the more film the easier it was to defend him in the ACC?

I’m sorry but a player who gets better year to year makes me feel a bit better than one that peaked and plateaued after his Freshman or Sophomore year.

[brothervad]

while I understand that this is what it's all about...I typically take draft-nik talk with a grain of salt.

Not because I don't think you guys don't put in the leg work, because I do. But I also think there are bias built in to all of us...

And frankly none of you (or us non draftniks) ever saw the GOAT in the round 6, pick 199 back in 2000.

Again that is not to knock any of you or this...what it does say is that you can't read into heart...and frankly I doubt Brady's skill at the combine made any of the draftniks back then stand up and take notice.

So while this is all fun and good...and entertaining...I imagine that the crop of QB's this year are a reach.

But you never know...



Brothervad

[WindyCitySteel]

i'm more concerned with IQ and ability.

That's why I'm going with Ridder all day long...

[WindyCitySteel]

5th year sr is like a college freshman going back to high school so throw Pickett out ... now what ...

and you wanna toss out supporting cast only because it doesn't fit your narrative how "democrat" of you ...

so a guy who does more in year 3 that is less than years 2 or year 1 but was better on average with all 3 years than 5 years of someone else takes a hit over 1 year but the guy doesnt take a hit for his first 4 of 5 years GTFO with that nonsense

you are speaking specifically about howell and we all know it because Howell was better on average at age 18-19-20 than Pickett period ... but you want us to forget about how good he was as a freshman and sophomore and only want us to think about the 5th year SR that wasnt any good his freshman , sophomore , junior or senior years it took his 5th year to be a decent QB ..again gtfo ....

Howell better completion percentage career 63.8 than Pickett 62.4
Howell better average QB rating 164.2 than Pickett 136.3
Howell more yards per attempt 9.2 than Pickett 7.3
Howell 93 td passes in 3 years Pickett 81 in 5 years

but lets forget the facts because you want Mr Lady Hands ? no thanks

You must not read my posts, I'm not on the Pickett bandwagon at all. Heck, I'd take Mr. One Read Howell over him, I think.

[WindyCitySteel]

BTW, Colbert and Tomlin went to Ole Miss' pro day today to see Corral, and thus skipped Ohio State's, meaning even if Olave falls to them they likely won't draft him.

[Prowler]

BTW, Colbert and Tomlin went to Ole Miss' pro day today to see Corral, and thus skipped Ohio State's, meaning even if Olave falls to them they likely won't draft him.

Interesting. I would of thought they would be more interested in Olave.

[WindyCitySteel]

Interesting. I would of thought they would be more interested in Olave.

Yep, they're locked in on a QB in round one. Colbert said he wasn't leaving without getting the next franchise QB, and that guy isn't Mitch.

I can probably get excited about any of the top 6 QBs, they all have intriguing traits.

[feltdizz]

We draft from Ohio State so much we probably have eyes on their pro day and didn’t need to send Tomlin and Colbert.

Plus.. as much as I want a WR I doubt we would draft one in the first given how we find them later in the draft.

[SteelerOfDeVille]

Interesting. I would of thought they would be more interested in Olave.

Same. That's a surprise. Seems he's trying to do what Ozzie Newsome did on his way out... Lamar Jackson, Orlando Brown, Mark Andrews, Hayden Hurst.. 1 MVP, a couple of all-pro, several pro bowls in this bunch since being drafted in 2018