Hines Ward IS Clutch...

[Steelworth]

Re: Hines Ward IS Clutch...

JC, nice to see this not turning into a 35 page pissing match like on SN.

One thing I always enjoyed there though was you putting Crash in his place when it came to Hines. His irrational hate for Hines Ward always clouded his usually good debating skills.

Anyways, I wouldn't want anyone else on my team in a crucial 3rd and long situation in the final moments with the big game on the line.

[SteelForce]

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As it stands now, and I HATE to say this, but Hines isn't getting in. There is a clear and undeniable bias against Steelers, and the numbers give the voters the cover they need to vote against him and pretend the Steeler bias doesn't exist.

Do I believe he's worthy?? Absolutely. But watching Donnie Shell, and LC and Dawson abd a half dozen others get passed over for inferior players year after year has finally eroded my confidence in credentials alone being the sole criteria for induction.

[RuthlessBurgher]

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I would think that since Hines has surpassed John Stallworth (another HOFer) to become the Steeler's all time leading receiver in most categories, this alone should make him Hall of Fame worthy. He's also done it in less time than Stallworth did.

I understand what y'all are saying about who among his contemporaries he'll have to be compared to, but I would think the selection committee would take into consideration being the best your team has ever had at your position (stats wise).

Just my thoughts.

"Best your team has ever had at your position" is not the way it works. The Broncos never had any Hall of Famers until Elway got in. So the best player they've ever had at every position other than QB was not in the Hall (until Gary Zimmerman gets inducted this summer...of course, he was a Viking for the first half of his career too).

Yes, but when you surpass the accomplishments of another HOFer who WAS the best the team had at that position, wouldn't you think that should go a LONG way to getting you in the HOF. Not saying that just because you're the best in a long line of mediocre players your team has had playing the position you should get in, but if you surpass a HOFer, I think you've got a pretty good argument for why you belong.

As another, non-Steelers example, say by the end of his career, Brian Urlacher has surpassed what Mike Singletary and bad word Butkus acomplished as Bears, wouldn't you think that would go a long way to showing that Urlacher deserves to be in the Hall of Fame?

Just my opinion.

Bad Word Butkus sounds even cooler than Bad Word LeBeau. Could have been a nickname of that era, kinda like Night Train Lane.

[Slapstick]

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If Hines plays four more years and averages 70-75 receptions per year, he will end his career with 1,000 catches...

If he can do that, it would be difficult to keep him out of the HoF...

[SteelerOfDeVille]

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Somehow I don't think this will turn into a 35 page thread and generate the arguments that it did on SN.

Why SN and not Hines? :P

[papillon]

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Somehow I don't think this will turn into a 35 page thread and generate the arguments that it did on SN.

Why SN and not Hines? :P

Oh no you didn't

Pappy

[Shawn]

Re: Hines Ward IS Clutch...

Excellent post JC...and I completely agree. And yes Ward is a HOFr right now.

[AngryAsian]

Re: Hines Ward IS Clutch...

Excellent post JC...and I completely agree. And yes Ward is a HOFr right now.

Johnny come lately from vacation.