Enough with the ‘no talent’ excuse.

[Northern_Blitz]

Sure. Playing hard nosed with them is an option. But come free agency good luck trying to get good ones to sign with a team that sits guys rather than let them go if things don't work out. And besides, if he is benched he's no use to the team anyway.

I understand the logic. And it's not unreasonable. And it's in character with how the Steelers operate.

But trade him away to an NFC team for peanuts before a team like KC that was struggling but everyone figured would bounce back eventually. Even if it nets you a round lower in compensation. It's not like we were getting a high pick back anyway. I think the difference between a 5th and even a 7th isn't necessarily all that much (not like a 1st to a 3rd).

But the FO doesn't call me to see what I think about their decisions. And they generally do pretty well without my input

[NorthCoast]

I understand the logic. And it's not unreasonable. And it's in character with how the Steelers operate.

But trade him away to an NFC team for peanuts before a team like KC that was struggling but everyone figured would bounce back eventually. Even if it nets you a round lower in compensation. It's not like we were getting a high pick back anyway. I think the difference between a 5th and even a 7th isn't necessarily all that much (not like a 1st to a 3rd).

But the FO doesn't call me to see what I think about their decisions. And they generally do pretty well without my input

I get the frustration. And it wasn't an ideal situation and maybe very few suitors to make a deal with. The mistake was maybe that it got public before the Steelers could negotiate something behind the scenes. Knowing you are trying to move an unhappy player can lead to lowballing I think.

(btw, Ingram has averaged fewer % defensive snaps in KC than in PIT. And that was before the multiple weeks with Watt and Highsmith missing time. But apparently he is happy now since he is playing for a SB and a big contract next season.)

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Come on. 187 views. There has to be a few ‘no talent’ fans that can show me all the terrible drafts posts…

528 now and I still don’t see any ‘ no talent’ people back up their claim…..

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

528 now and I still don’t see any ‘ no talent’ people back up their claim…..

So let me understand. You are saying that in order to say that this team is not talented enough you also had to post every year on draft day that the team had a bad draft?

[Northern_Blitz]

So let me understand. You are saying that in order to say that this team is not talented enough you also had to post every year on draft day that the team had a bad draft?

While he's also saying that KC was more talented at every position group on the team (except RB where it was a push).

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So let me understand. You are saying that in order to say that this team is not talented enough you also had to post every year on draft day that the team had a bad draft?

Yea, basically.
See , you can’t make posts after each draft pick saying what a great pick it was or you can’t grade our draft an A or B every year and then when the team underachieves use the excuse that their is no talent.
That’s why I’m not getting anyone to reply. They would have to admit they were wrong about the ‘no talent’ claims or admit they know nothing about the players when they were drafted.

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While he's also saying that KC was more talented at every position group on the team (except RB where it was a push).

I’m not sure I commented on the chiefs roster. Can you show me where I said that?

[NorthCoast]

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...., you can’t make posts after each draft pick saying what a great pick it was or you can’t grade our draft an A or B every year and then when the team underachieves use the excuse that their is no talent.
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Yes, we can. It's called a message board and forum for fans of the Steelers. Pretty sure most of us don't do the draft for a living so we cheer for the team and the ones that do. Pretty rare to have universal agreement on this board after the draft. Most of us get excited, some have questions. But one thing is certain, we can rely on you to be that lone dissenter on most picks.

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Yes, we can. It's called a message board and forum for fans of the Steelers. Pretty sure most of us don't do the draft for a living so we cheer for the team and the ones that do. Pretty rare to have universal agreement on this board after the draft. Most of us get excited, some have questions. But one thing is certain, we can rely on you to be that lone dissenter on most picks.

But you act like you do the draft for a living. I never said a fan can’t cheer for the player selected. I also never said opinions had to be universal.
I see you left out the part of my post stating you would have to admit you had no clue what you were talking about if you did that.
And as far as me knocking most of the picks, I guess that makes me the best draft evaluator here.
Because you know, we have no talent.

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I’m not sure I commented on the chiefs roster. Can you show me where I said that?

Still waiting on this also…

[feltdizz]

Yea, basically.
See , you can’t make posts after each draft pick saying what a great pick it was or you can’t grade our draft an A or B every year and then when the team underachieves use the excuse that their is no talent.
That’s why I’m not getting anyone to reply. They would have to admit they were wrong about the ‘no talent’ claims or admit they know nothing about the players when they were drafted.

Can you actually name anyone who has said every pick was great and gave A’s and B’s for every draft?

For years you have made this accusation without ever providing actual evidence. All you have to do is link to draft threads to show where everyone was on board with every pick.

Literally more than half the board weren’t fans of Muth and Najee in the first 2 rounds. People who love the draft spends hours debating over picks or who they would’ve picked instead of who the FO selected.

Its weird how you want to blame fans for the picks the Steeler make like this board has to power to overturn the FO’s decisions.

What people have to realize is last years draft wasn’t made specifically for THIS year with a 40 year old QB. These are the foundation for the youth movement. Now we need to get younger and better on the OL and DL and find a legit #1 WR.

[NorthCoast]

But you act like you do the draft for a living. I never said a fan can’t cheer for the player selected. I also never said opinions had to be universal.
I see you left out the part of my post stating you would have to admit you had no clue what you were talking about if you did that.
And as far as me knocking most of the picks, I guess that makes me the best draft evaluator here.
Because you know, we have no talent.

I am looking forward to your excellent evaluations on the upcoming draft picks then. Can hardly wait.

[Northern_Blitz]

I’m not sure I commented on the chiefs roster. Can you show me where I said that?

Looks like I confused you with Whisper.

Do you think we had more talent than KC?

[Northern_Blitz]

Still waiting on this also…

FWIW I'm waiting for your answers to the questions I asked you on pg 1.

What were your expectations (a) before the season and (b) before the playoff game?

And a third one for fun: how many teams that missed the playoffs I. The AFC do you think we're more talented than we were?

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Looks like I confused you with Whisper.

Do you think we had more talent than KC?

Thanks for sorta admitting you were wrong.
Kc has a better oline and a much better qb.