Tweet
I'm not a fan of cherry picking data so I like to look at the whole.
We've covered this before, but you aren't even good at picking cherry picked timeframes (answers in black if you want to highlight them):
When was the last time we went to the AFCC? Was that in the last 11 years? Jan 22, 2017. Yes.
When was the last time we went to the SB? Was that in the last 11 years? Feb 6 2011, yes.
It seems like you write things based on how you feel vs. trying to find the truth / facts and forming an opinion.
Here's a couple of other things to think about, if you're interested in truth / facts:
In playoff losses in your cherry picked timeline, can you think of any critical players that were injured and who replaced them? Do you think that had a significant effect on the talent level of the team that was on the field? Or were they still "stacked" as some posters put it?
How many turnovers did we have in playoff losses in the last 11 years?
How many times did we get better play at the QB position in those losses than our opponent (despite the fact that our QB has a significantly better resumee than many of the QBs we've lost against)? I posted the stats for Ben vs. Tebow upthread. It's not what you'd expect before the game.
What is the turnover ratio in those games? Did the opposing defense score points (because that's pretty close to a guaranteed loss)?
Just for the last question, here are the turnover numbers per PFF for our playoff losses in your cherry picked timeline (https://www.pro-football-reference.c...t/playoffs.htm):
From: https://www.footballperspective.com/...rnover-battle/
Seems pretty clear to me that the main reason we've lost in the playoffs over your cherry picked timeline (which includes an AFCC and SB loss) is turnovers. You don't need a super high level of understanding in football to understand that turnovers lead to losses.
We're a combined -15 in those 7 games, never won the turnover battle, and only tied it once.
And we were only -1 once. In 5 of the 7 games were were -2 or more.
In the most recent games, we also allowed the defense to score on those turnovers, which makes that win% ever lower.
And finally, why do you think that players are more important than coaching when we were winning SBs (i.e. Cowher's players) but that coaches are more important than players when we've struggled in the playoffs? I think the logically consistent posters tend to go one way or the other. For example, I think that Ben and the players get more credit for the playoff success than Tomlin. Just like I think they get more of the blame. Because I think that "coaches can lead the players to water but can't make them drink".
We've covered this before, but you aren't even good at picking cherry picked timeframes (answers in black if you want to highlight them):
When was the last time we went to the AFCC? Was that in the last 11 years? Jan 22, 2017. Yes.
When was the last time we went to the SB? Was that in the last 11 years? Feb 6 2011, yes.
It seems like you write things based on how you feel vs. trying to find the truth / facts and forming an opinion.
Here's a couple of other things to think about, if you're interested in truth / facts:
In playoff losses in your cherry picked timeline, can you think of any critical players that were injured and who replaced them? Do you think that had a significant effect on the talent level of the team that was on the field? Or were they still "stacked" as some posters put it?
How many turnovers did we have in playoff losses in the last 11 years?
How many times did we get better play at the QB position in those losses than our opponent (despite the fact that our QB has a significantly better resumee than many of the QBs we've lost against)? I posted the stats for Ben vs. Tebow upthread. It's not what you'd expect before the game.
What is the turnover ratio in those games? Did the opposing defense score points (because that's pretty close to a guaranteed loss)?
Just for the last question, here are the turnover numbers per PFF for our playoff losses in your cherry picked timeline (https://www.pro-football-reference.c...t/playoffs.htm):
- -5 (with a DTD)
- -2 (with a DTD)
- -2
- -1
- -2
- 0!
- -3
From: https://www.footballperspective.com/...rnover-battle/
As it turns out, the importance of winning the turnover battle has been remarkably static throughout NFL history.
Last year, teams that won the turnover battle won 78% of their games. And from 2007 to 2016, teams that won the turnover battle won 78% of their games.<NB edit: I'd imagine that the rate gets worse the more you lose the ratio by and we're -2 or worse in most of those playoff games> In the decade of the ’70s, when turnover rates were much higher, teams that won the turnover battle won 78% of their games. From 1950 to 2016, the average winning percentage of teams that won the turnover battle was 78%, too. Take a look:
Seems pretty clear to me that the main reason we've lost in the playoffs over your cherry picked timeline (which includes an AFCC and SB loss) is turnovers. You don't need a super high level of understanding in football to understand that turnovers lead to losses.
We're a combined -15 in those 7 games, never won the turnover battle, and only tied it once.
And we were only -1 once. In 5 of the 7 games were were -2 or more.
In the most recent games, we also allowed the defense to score on those turnovers, which makes that win% ever lower.
And finally, why do you think that players are more important than coaching when we were winning SBs (i.e. Cowher's players) but that coaches are more important than players when we've struggled in the playoffs? I think the logically consistent posters tend to go one way or the other. For example, I think that Ben and the players get more credit for the playoff success than Tomlin. Just like I think they get more of the blame. Because I think that "coaches can lead the players to water but can't make them drink".
Comment