So now who can’t evaluate the qb position?

[whatever]

Remember when the Tomlin lovers used the excuse that cowher didn’t value the web position?
Although it has been proven that their were only a couple good qbs that he could have drafted or tried to acquire.
Well now. How’s Tomlin doing at evaluating or valuing our qb situation?
Seems like everybody here is claiming they know Ben has been in a serious decline the last several years.
And I would agree.
So, why hasn’t Tomlin notice it?
Why hasn’t he drafted one?
Why hasn’t he traded for one?
I’d love to hear from the ones that tried to blame cowher for this.
There have been many many more good qbs available to Tomlin just the last few years. Much more than during cowhers entire tenure.

[Eich]

"He" drafted Rudolph who some said, should have been a higher draft position than was taken.
"He" also drafted Dobbs, Landry Jones
"He" also broght in a first round QB talent in Haskins.
Duck was also a prospect.

It's not like the position has been completely ignored.

I put "He" in quotes because Colbert does most of it with Tomlin's input and blessing.

In hindsight, it would have been nice to have drafted someone like Dak Prescott 5 years ago.

[whatever]

"He" drafted Rudolph who some said, should have been a higher draft position than was taken.
"He" also drafted Dobbs, Landry Jones
"He" also broght in a first round QB talent in Haskins.
Duck was also a prospect.

It's not like the position has been completely ignored.

I put "He" in quotes because Colbert does most of it with Tomlin's input and blessing.

In hindsight, it would have been nice to have drafted someone like Dak Prescott 5 years ago.

Your list of qbs actually support my post.
Thanks.

[feltdizz]

Ehh.. while Ben may be past his expiration date he IS a HOF quarterback.

Why do we need to hit on another one while Ben is still under center?

One could argue that Tomlin and Colbert held onto Ben a year or 2 too long but this is completely different than Cowher.

The excuse people made for Cowher was that he never had franchise QB or he would have won more SB’s.

What is odd is some people say Ben is making it harder for Tomlin since his hands are tied due to his cap hit and loyalty by the Rooney’s for obvious reasons.

I think we have to wait until Ben leaves to have this discussion if we are ever in a position to draft a franchise QB and we hear Tomlin didn’t want him or we draft another position and stick with Mason and he sucks.

[whatever]

Ehh.. while Ben may be past his expiration date he IS a HOF quarterback.

Why do we need to hit on another one while Ben is still under center?

One could argue that Tomlin and Colbert held onto Ben a year or 2 too long but this is completely different than Cowher.

The excuse people made for Cowher was that he never had franchise QB or he would have won more SB’s.

What is odd is some people say Ben is making it harder for Tomlin since his hands are tied due to his cap hit and loyalty by the Rooney’s for obvious reasons.

I think we have to wait until Ben leaves to have this discussion if we are ever in a position to draft a franchise QB and we hear Tomlin didn’t want him or we draft another position and stick with Mason and he sucks.

Why do we need to hit on another one?
You are the biggest anti Ben guy here. Everyone says he should have been gone a couple years ago. So drafting one the last couple years would have us in prime position to compete.
Other HCs are drafting their potent future franchise qb.

[feltdizz]

Why do we need to hit on another one?
You are the biggest anti Ben guy here. Everyone says he should have been gone a couple years ago. So drafting one the last couple years would have us in prime position to compete.
Other HCs are drafting their potent future franchise qb.

My name isn’t Colbert or Tomlin. My opinion has no power over the front offices decision.

Once Ben is gone we can discuss if Tomlin can or can’t evaluate QB’s.

[whatever]

My name isn’t Colbert or Tomlin. My opinion has no power over the front offices decision.

Once Ben is gone we can discuss if Tomlin can or can’t evaluate QB’s.

What a cop out.
Tomlin has a record of qb evaluation and has shown his value of it whether you want to admit it or not.

[Disco1981]

What a cop out.
Tomlin has a record of qb evaluation and has shown his value of it whether you want to admit it or not.

Oh, and don't forget DB's...His so called " specialty " ...Where he came from...

Hasn't drafted or developed a good one during his illustrious Tenure! Colbert Had to trade or bring in FA's to have ANY semblance of a Defensive Backfield, under the HOF Coaches watchful eye!

[feltdizz]

What a cop out.
Tomlin has a record of qb evaluation and has shown his value of it whether you want to admit it or not.

How is it a cop out?

Tomlin has “evaluated” backup QB’s but we have yet to draft Ben’s replacement. Maybe its Rudolph or Haskins but until they take first team in camp we will never know if Tomlin is better or worse than Cowher at evaluating QB’s.

and I’m pretty sure Tomlin has a winning record overall with QB’s not named Ben in meaningful games. I don’t put the same amount of importance on winning when we rest starters for the last game before the playoffs.

[Northern_Blitz]

This thread is kind of odd.

We haven't tried to draft a starting QB since Ben was drafted.

We'll likely get to see how well the current FO (incl. Tomlin) scouts and drafts starting QBs.

[Steel Maniac]

This thread is kind of odd.

We haven't tried to draft a starting QB since Ben was drafted.

We'll likely get to see how well the current FO (incl. Tomlin) scouts and drafts starting QBs.

It’s one thing to scout them ; but Colbert is going to have to get comfortable with the idea of possibly having to trade up to get a franchise QB.

[hawaiiansteel]

It’s one thing to scout them ; but Colbert is going to have to get comfortable with the idea of possibly having to trade up to get a franchise QB.

if only we would have traded ALMOST all of our draft picks to move up to #1 and draft Trevor Lawrence.

can't make this stuff up, you actually said that.

you have absolutely no clue whatsoever.

[Eich]

This thread makes no sense.

Belichick didn't evaluate Brady and they waited until forever to draft him that year. But I'm sure that Belichick can evaluate QB talent pretty well.

If you want to fault Tomlin for something, maybe it's believing in Ben, a HOF QB, for too long. But he's not alone in doing that.

I'm quite certain that Tomlin can evaluate QB talent better than anyone on this board.

[Disco1981]

This thread makes no sense.

Belichick didn't evaluate Brady and they waited until forever to draft him that year. But I'm sure that Belichick can evaluate QB talent pretty well.

If you want to fault Tomlin for something, maybe it's believing in Ben, a HOF QB, for too long. But he's not alone in doing that.

I'm quite certain that Tomlin can evaluate QB talent better than anyone on this board.

Not from what I've seen

[feltdizz]

This thread makes no sense.

Belichick didn't evaluate Brady and they waited until forever to draft him that year. But I'm sure that Belichick can evaluate QB talent pretty well.

If you want to fault Tomlin for something, maybe it's believing in Ben, a HOF QB, for too long. But he's not alone in doing that.

I'm quite certain that Tomlin can evaluate QB talent better than anyone on this board.

Good post. The reality is none of this matters until we move on from Ben.

There was a small minority who wanted to move on after Ben’s last contract. I was in that group. But I also knew and accepted why we didn’t. Steelers are loyal to a fault when it comes to franchise guys like Ben.

Its hard to move on from a HOFer with 2 rings but we have seen guys like Brady, Montana and Peyton do it.

We didn’t so we will just have to let Ben play this year out and hope for the best. Definitely looking forward to what the future holds regarding the next QB.