Is Matt Canada one and done with the Steelers?

[Steel Maniac]

Nice effort, but mark missed my friend.
Try to not let your agenda blind you from the topic at hand and keep up..

I was in fact going back MORE than 15 years. Why? Because NJ dissed Tomlin as a COORDINATOR.

NJ said:


Therefore, my comments about Tomlin the Vikings COORDINATOR.

Cowhers players were coached by Cowher at the time..

My only comments about "Cowhers players" were to give Cowher full credit for having an inferior defense with "his players" than Tomlin had with Viking scrubs.

Funny, what has Tomlin done with players he's drafted since Cowher's players and coaches left? One AFC championship game appearance in 10-11 year period when he was favored 5 times to represent the AFC in the Super Bowl? Come on Cap.

[hawaiiansteel]

One AFC championship game appearance in 10-11 year period when he was favored 5 times to represent the AFC in the Super Bowl?

I call bullsh!t.

name the 5 years we were favored to win the AFC.

[Captain Lemming]

Funny, what has Tomlin done with players he's drafted since Cowher's players and coaches left? One AFC championship game appearance in 10-11 year period when he was favored 5 times to represent the AFC in the Super Bowl? Come on Cap.

You'd have a point.
IF IT WERE TRUE.

We all love Flippy but what he says on this forum does not make the Steelers favorites every year.

[Captain Lemming]

Funny, what has Tomlin done with players he's drafted since Cowher's players and coaches left? One AFC championship game appearance in 10-11 year period when he was favored 5 times to represent the AFC in the Super Bowl? Come on Cap.

Irony is that WE AGREED that overpaid runningbacks and receivers is NOT a winning formula.

ANYBODY who was dumb enough to favor us did so BECAUSE of over rating Bell and Browns value.

Defense and franchise QB is the formula. We AGREED on that.

Therefore BY YOUR OWN STATED CRITERIA we did not have the pieces to expect championships.

We drafted defense poorly with "misses" or injury shortened careers of Shazier, Jarvis J, Golson, Burns, and Davis.

GM is in charge of player selection. Yet you JUST said he was among the best.

By the time we improved the defense, Ben was on the decline.

[feltdizz]

Funny, what has Tomlin done with players he's drafted since Cowher's players and coaches left? One AFC championship game appearance in 10-11 year period when he was favored 5 times to represent the AFC in the Super Bowl? Come on Cap.

damn dude, you are a broken record. That is probably the 800th time you have said the same damn thing.

[NJ-STEELER]

the problem with NJ’s dig is Joe Brady was never an OC at LSU.

He was the “passing game coordinator”

Ensminger was the OC at LSU when they were breaking records with Burrow.

I think whoever was Joe Brady’s agent or hype man really did a great job of framing that 2019 offense as Brady’s since the OC was retiring.

Brady was the man standing next to the man.. lmao.

I was talking about canada annnnd I was joking

[feltdizz]

I was talking about canada annnnd I was joking

Cool.. I can admit a mistake.

Thought it was that other joke you made about Joe Brady having more success than Tomlin when he was a coordinator.

So many jokes about Tomlin its hard to keep track.

[NJ-STEELER]

Cool.. I can admit a mistake.

Thought it was that other joke you made about Joe Brady having more success than Tomlin when he was a coordinator.

So many jokes about Tomlin its hard to keep track.

cool, next time I see a fat joke regarding ben by you or someone else, i'll reply in a similar manner

[Steel Maniac]

Irony is that WE AGREED that overpaid runningbacks and receivers is NOT a winning formula.

ANYBODY who was dumb enough to favor us did so BECAUSE of over rating Bell and Browns value.

Defense and franchise QB is the formula. We AGREED on that.

Therefore BY YOUR OWN STATED CRITERIA we did not have the pieces to expect championships.

We drafted defense poorly with "misses" or injury shortened careers of Shazier, Jarvis J, Golson, Burns, and Davis.

GM is in charge of player selection. Yet you JUST said he was among the best.

By the time we improved the defense, Ben was on the decline.

So...

Your saying all those years we were favored (by objective experts ; Not Steeler fans) to go to the Super Bowl were bogus? Especially the 2017-2018? Nope. I'm sorry Cap but that's pure rationalization from you to to rationalize away Tomlin's failure of stacked teams.

Brown was never overrated; he was the best WR in the league. And Bell was top 3 easy at his position. Nice try.
Yes we agreed on overpaid runningbacks/Wide receivers but that wasn't the case with us through the majority of the last decade.

So your actually going to say those teams (especially 2012-2017) were not that good? Wow. You make up new stuff all the time but this is some of your best stuff! That is a bunch of crap.

[hawaiiansteel]

One AFC championship game appearance in 10-11 year period when he was favored 5 times to represent the AFC in the Super Bowl?

dude, stop making stuff up just because it fits your agenda.

[NorthCoast]

So...

Your saying all those years we were favored (by objective experts ; Not Steeler fans) to go to the Super Bowl were bogus? Especially the 2017-2018? Nope. I'm sorry Cap but that's pure rationalization from you to to rationalize away Tomlin's failure of stacked teams.

Brown was never overrated; he was the best WR in the league. And Bell was top 3 easy at his position. Nice try.
Yes we agreed on overpaid runningbacks/Wide receivers but that wasn't the case with us through the majority of the last decade.

So your actually going to say those teams (especially 2012-2017) were not that good? Wow. You make up new stuff all the time but this is some of your best stuff! That is a bunch of crap.

If you are referring to preseason Vegas odds for SB favorites then they have never been a favorite in the Tomlin era. Pretty much every season it's been either NE, IND, or KC for the AFC.

[hawaiiansteel]

One AFC championship game appearance in 10-11 year period when he was favored 5 times to represent the AFC in the Super Bowl?

[Captain Lemming]

So...

Your saying all those years we were favored (by objective experts ; Not Steeler fans) to go to the Super Bowl were bogus?

No I'm saying YOUR contention that they were SB favorites is bogus.

Especially the 2017-2018?

Including the 2017-2018 season.
The Patriots were far and away the consensus favorites.

Nope. I'm sorry Cap but that's pure rationalization from you to to rationalize away Tomlin's failure of stacked teams.

Show the link that has Vegas odds with the Steelers as SB favorites at any time during the span you gave.

I will wait.

Brown was never overrated; he was the best WR in the league. And Bell was top 3 easy at his position. Nice try.

Read slowly to comprehend. I never said they were underrated at their position.

The idea that Bell and Brown OR ANY PLAYERS AT THOSE POSITIONS makes us favorites is to overestimate their value.

You know this as YOU ARGUED THAT POINT ALONG WITH ME. The only time you pretend not to know this is to act like they made us favorites.

So your actually going to say those teams (especially 2012-2017) were not that good? Wow. You make up new stuff all the time but this is some of your best stuff! That is a bunch of crap.

The only thing "made up" is what you claim I just said.

Did I say those teams.were not good?

"Good" and "SB favorites" are 2 different things.

We have NOT been SB favorites during the period you describe.

2017-2018 the number 1 seeded Pats were the favorites. We were second in the conference by a WIDE margin.

[hawaiiansteel]

One AFC championship game appearance in 10-11 year period when he was favored 5 times to represent the AFC in the Super Bowl?

[feltdizz]

So...

Your saying all those years we were favored (by objective experts ; Not Steeler fans) to go to the Super Bowl were bogus? Especially the 2017-2018? Nope. I'm sorry Cap but that's pure rationalization from you to to rationalize away Tomlin's failure of stacked teams.

Brown was never overrated; he was the best WR in the league. And Bell was top 3 easy at his position. Nice try.
Yes we agreed on overpaid runningbacks/Wide receivers but that wasn't the case with us through the majority of the last decade.

So your actually going to say those teams (especially 2012-2017) were not that good? Wow. You make up new stuff all the time but this is some of your best stuff! That is a bunch of crap.

rationalization to rationalize????

yeah.. you are just throwing words out now.