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  • Joel Buchsbaum
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    • Jan 2021
    • 7744

    Tomlin punts on 4th and 1

    8 minutes to go in the game. Tomlin punts on 4th and 1? Didn't even try to get them off sides vs. a team that had its share of penalties. A yard? Please explain why? Coaching was as issue yesterday. Coach to win. If we don't win fans won't bitch much but at least try. At this point I'd scarp to old game plan and play like we are down a score. No blocked punts to save us....
    Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

    Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

    *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***
  • NorthCoast
    Legend
    • Sep 2008
    • 26636

    #2
    Why do we need a separate post on this? Please go see multiple posts elsewhere.

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    • hawaiiansteel
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 35648

      #3
      we did get the ball back and kicked a FG, but a lot of time had run off the clock by then.

      I disagreed with Tomlin's decision, seems like he was living in his fears.

      however, it's easy to second guess. if he goes for it there and doesn't make it he would have gotten blasted for that.

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      • feltdizz
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 27532

        #4
        Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
        we did get the ball back and kicked a FG, but a lot of time had run off the clock by then.

        I disagreed with Tomlin's decision, seems like he was living in his fears.

        however, it's easy to second guess. if he goes for it there and doesn't make it he would have gotten blasted for that.
        They burned 3 minutes and then kicked it back to us.

        if we tried and failed then Tomlin is an idiot for not punting.

        and its not like a few plays would have us in FG position if we made it. We were still at our 30. I could see if we never got the ball back after punting but we did. We scored and then we couldn’t stop the Raiders the next drive until they burned too much clock.

        The problem with this type of thinking is everything has to go right after we make that 4th and 1. Of course hindsight tells us if we went for it the Raiders would’ve imploded but that was doubtful given all the injuries to our defense.
        Steelers 27
        Rats 16

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        • Terrapin
          Pro Bowler
          • Sep 2017
          • 2081

          #5
          I have a bigger issue with not taking a knee or handing it to Benny Snell with 20 seconds left

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          • feltdizz
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 27532

            #6
            Originally posted by Terrapin
            I have a bigger issue with not taking a knee or handing it to Benny Snell with 20 seconds left
            I don’t remember too many knees taken in defeat.

            Usually its a run up the middle or a pass attempt.
            Steelers 27
            Rats 16

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            • Northern_Blitz
              Legend
              • Dec 2008
              • 24373

              #7
              I think DK had it right on this.

              It's a bit foolish to complain about the 4th and 1 because it probably doesn't matter. The bigger game management impact was the decision of whether or not to go for 2 on the Harris TD.

              I didn't watch the broadcast, but I wonder if the talking heads said something about this and that's what's leading to all the outrage. I think that's what happened in the on-side kick in the playoff game against the guys that wear teal. I think that was the better decision at the time, but the commentators said it was bad and so that became the talking point.

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              • Steel Maniac
                Banned
                • Apr 2017
                • 19472

                #8
                Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                8 minutes to go in the game. Tomlin punts on 4th and 1? Didn't even try to get them off sides vs. a team that had its share of penalties. A yard? Please explain why? Coaching was as issue yesterday. Coach to win. If we don't win fans won't bitch much but at least try. At this point I'd scarp to old game plan and play like we are down a score. No blocked punts to save us....
                Your point is valid but there as so many other issues that are wrong with this team that Tomlin's lack of testicular fortitude isn't on the front burner for now.

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                • Northern_Blitz
                  Legend
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 24373

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                  Your point is valid but there as so many other issues that are wrong with this team that Tomlin's lack of testicular fortitude isn't on the front burner for now.
                  You talk about male anatomy a lot (particularly Tomlin's).

                  It's 2021. It's fine if that's how you roll.

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                  • Terrapin
                    Pro Bowler
                    • Sep 2017
                    • 2081

                    #10
                    Originally posted by feltdizz
                    I don’t remember too many knees taken in defeat.

                    Usually its a run up the middle or a pass attempt.
                    Well hopefully that 8 yard pass that blew Diontae's knee out was worth it.

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                    • Steel Maniac
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2017
                      • 19472

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                      8 minutes to go in the game. Tomlin punts on 4th and 1? Didn't even try to get them off sides vs. a team that had its share of penalties. A yard? Please explain why? Coaching was as issue yesterday. Coach to win. If we don't win fans won't bitch much but at least try. At this point I'd scarp to old game plan and play like we are down a score. No blocked punts to save us....
                      Your right; but it's deflection time for the TBW. And we really DO have other more pressing issues. But you are spot on.

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                      • hawaiiansteel
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 35648

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                        You talk about male anatomy a lot (particularly Tomlin's).

                        It's 2021. It's fine if that's how you roll.
                        it's something Steel Maniac is totally obsessed with.

                        he thinks about that a lot. but hey, whatever floats your boat.

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                        • feltdizz
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 27532

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                          Your right; but it's deflection time for the TBW. And we really DO have other more pressing issues. But you are spot on.
                          Damn.. NB wasn’t lying. You talk about Tomlin’s anatomy a lot.
                          Steelers 27
                          Rats 16

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                          • BURGH86STEEL
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 6921

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                            Your right; but it's deflection time for the TBW. And we really DO have other more pressing issues. But you are spot on.
                            He is not right. And it’s you're right not your right.

                            The right decision was to punt to give the TEAM a chance given the %s at play.

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                            • Mr.wizard
                              Legend
                              • May 2014
                              • 6686

                              #15
                              Originally posted by feltdizz
                              They burned 3 minutes and then kicked it back to us.

                              if we tried and failed then Tomlin is an idiot for not punting.

                              and its not like a few plays would have us in FG position if we made it. We were still at our 30. I could see if we never got the ball back after punting but we did. We scored and then we couldn’t stop the Raiders the next drive until they burned too much clock.

                              The problem with this type of thinking is everything has to go right after we make that 4th and 1. Of course hindsight tells us if we went for it the Raiders would’ve imploded but that was doubtful given all the injuries to our defense.
                              Thats just it, we were deep in our own territory, if we go and dont make it they are going to be able to burn clock already in position to score points.

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