3 turnovers at the half.

[BURGH86STEEL]

It's interesting how some folks like to put teams into "cookie cutter" models. Maybe I am guilty of this at times?

For example, better statistical defense vs weaker statistical offense. Games are not won based on fan's perceptions, statistics, rankings, records, or any of those factors.


Games are generally won based on the teams that execute better, make the least amount of mistakes, and can find ways to win on game day.


Ultimately, all that matters is how teams perform on game day. Doesn't matter if the execution is run, pass, or playing quality defense.


Cowboys had their share of opportunities to win vs the Bucs. Cowboys failed to execute enough to win. The Bucs won in crunch time with a little luck ie questionable PI call. Some times teams create their own luck.

[Northern_Blitz]

I think that was indicative in the past. Throw that many times and it’s because you’re way behind all game.
but Dallas was only behind 9 points max all game.
with one of the better RBs in the league , with a QB coming off a season ending leg injury and a throwing shoulder injury in camp…..and still threw 57 times

the bucs meanwhile were ahead for all but 2 minutes of the game and chucked it up 50 times

You see this happening more and more. This trend will continue to rise with the way they’ve stripped defenses of playing physical against the wrs and QBs

I think very good QBs can throw it 50 times a day and have success consistently.

But here, very good means better than Ben. Because we showed that we can handle that volume of passing.

So that's like Brady and Rodgers (over a large sample size anyway). Smaller samples, but Mahomes is 9n the list this year. And I think Allen will throw at us a lot this weekend and maybe have some success.

There just aren't many QBs per generation that can do that.

Maybe Ben's different because he's a high variance player, so expecting consistency over that many throws is a bad bet.

But is there any QB in our division you wouldn't want to throw more than 50 passes against us?

I get that the rules are changing to be more pass friendly. But I don't think we're at that point yet.

[feltdizz]

I think very good QBs can throw it 50 times a day and have success consistently.

But here, very good means better than Ben. Because we showed that we can handle that volume of passing.

So that's like Brady and Rodgers (over a large sample size anyway). Smaller samples, but Mahomes is 9n the list this year. And I think Allen will throw at us a lot this weekend and maybe have some success.

There just aren't many QBs per generation that can do that.

Maybe Ben's different because he's a high variance player, so expecting consistency over that many throws is a bad bet.

But is there any QB in our division you wouldn't want to throw more than 50 passes against us?

I get that the rules are changing to be more pass friendly. But I don't think we're at that point yet.

If Allen throws 50 times against us I would be disappointed if we lost.

[NJ-STEELER]

I think very good QBs can throw it 50 times a day and have success consistently.

But here, very good means better than Ben. Because we showed that we can handle that volume of passing.

So that's like Brady and Rodgers (over a large sample size anyway). Smaller samples, but Mahomes is 9n the list this year. And I think Allen will throw at us a lot this weekend and maybe have some success.

There just aren't many QBs per generation that can do that.

Maybe Ben's different because he's a high variance player, so expecting consistency over that many throws is a bad bet.

But is there any QB in our division you wouldn't want to throw more than 50 passes against us?

I get that the rules are changing to be more pass friendly. But I don't think we're at that point yet.

the league is changing.
the college game is changing too with a lot more pass

Dallas choses to throw it that many times because match ups favored it. A former # 3 pick overall, a #15 overall along with one of the better 3rd WR IN the league.
tampa brought in AB and Gronk after already having Godwin, Evans and a 1st rd TE. Whose name escapes me right now.
They aren’t 2004 Steelers where their 2 starting WRs were former college Qbs
teams are being built to take advantage of the passing game rules. I think we’ll see it increase more and more
And no I don’t want ben at this age throwing it that much, just pointing out in the future you’ll need more then a mason Rudolph type to be successful

as far as our schedule this year.
i certainly wouldn’t want Allen throwing it 50 + times. Him and diggs made the defense really bad
I would think a competent coaching staff could come up with a plan to negate 1 player from doing so much damage so we’ll see what happens Sunday.

wilson, Herbert, Rodgers , mahomes are others I definitely wouldn’t want to see pass that much
cousins can look awful 1 day and look great in another.
But I wouldn’t want to see thelan or Jefferson with the ball in their hands 20+ times a game.
our defense looked like a pop Warner unit in our last game letting Landry go untouched thru the defense for 40+ yards

i would hope we would get the baker we saw in match up #1 rather then match up 2&3 last year if he would throw 50 times.
burrrow… we’ll see
Jackson…. Hell yes. I hope he throws it at least 35 times

[NorthCoast]

the league is changing.
the college game is changing too with a lot more pass

Dallas choses to throw it that many times because match ups favored it. A former # 3 pick overall, a #15 overall along with one of the better 3rd WR IN the league.
tampa brought in AB and Gronk after already having Godwin, Evans and a 1st rd TE. Whose name escapes me right now.
They aren’t 2004 Steelers where their 2 starting WRs were former college Qbs
teams are being built to take advantage of the passing game rules. I think we’ll see it increase more and more
And no I don’t want ben at this age throwing it that much, just pointing out in the future you’ll need more then a mason Rudolph type to be successful

as far as our schedule this year.
i certainly wouldn’t want Allen throwing it 50 + times. Him and diggs made the defense really bad
I would think a competent coaching staff could come up with a plan to negate 1 player from doing so much damage so we’ll see what happens Sunday.

wilson, Herbert, Rodgers , mahomes are others I definitely wouldn’t want to see pass that much
cousins can look awful 1 day and look great in another.
But I wouldn’t want to see thelan or Jefferson with the ball in their hands 20+ times a game.
our defense looked like a pop Warner unit in our last game letting Landry go untouched thru the defense for 40+ yards

i would hope we would get the baker we saw in match up #1 rather then match up 2&3 last year if he would throw 50 times.
burrrow… we’ll see
Jackson…. Hell yes. I hope he throws it at least 35 times

I agree the rules favor passing (and analytics says pass more not less).
But, you can still build a running team to win in the modern game. Look no further than our division. BAL built a running juggernaut and won 11 games last season. BUT, I am curious whether they can repeat their success this season with all the injuries. If they do, it tells us it less player dependent than we thought.

[NJ-STEELER]

I agree the rules favor passing (and analytics says pass more not less).
But, you can still build a running team to win in the modern game. Look no further than our division. BAL built a running juggernaut and won 11 games last season. BUT, I am curious whether they can repeat their success this season with all the injuries. If they do, it tells us it less player dependent than we thought.

what do you mean by “winning” ?
I haven’t seen any win a SB recently.

I’ll even expand that further out to championship weekend.

In the last three years there’s been 2 teams (vs. 10 pass oriented) that have made it that far. SF and tenn