Nice read on Haskins

[Shawn]

I agree with most of what you say. QBs of Haskins' generation are playing in a different NFL than those mentioned. However, I think the common denominator of all those OSU QBs (adding Alabama and USC under Pete Carroll) is they never deal with adversity. They have so much talent overmatch around them it is easy to win so they develop no coping or character traits to deal with situations when it isn't always easy and going your way.

Never a doubt about talent of football skills but does he have the mental toughness to bring it out and dig in when it isn't easy? My hope is that Tomlin's leadership skills helps Haskins find his way. Hoping but not counting on it.

I do understand what you are saying and don't disagree. I think this is the biggest hurdle. Haskins has been "the man" since he was very young. I'm not sure he ever faced real adversity in regards to football. I will say this though. I've been digging to see if work ethic and a lack of love for the game has been an issue for him. He was rumored to keep a football in his backpack at all times in high school. He outworked everyone on the team. That's a good sign. Lets pray the WFT issues were a blip. Lets pray they were a young man spreading his wings and just acting out for maybe the first time in his life. I'm all in on the 5% gamble. I think Haskins has the goods and I think he is the Steelers next franchise QB. If I'm wrong I'll eat the crow pie.

[Oviedo]

I do understand what you are saying and don't disagree. I think this is the biggest hurdle. Haskins has been "the man" since he was very young. I'm not sure he ever faced real adversity in regards to football. I will say this though. I've been digging to see if work ethic and a lack of love for the game has been an issue for him. He was rumored to keep a football in his backpack at all times in high school. He outworked everyone on the team. That's a good sign. Lets pray the WFT issues were a blip. Lets pray they were a young man spreading his wings and just acting out for maybe the first time in his life. I'm all in on the 5% gamble. I think Haskins has the goods and I think he is the Steelers next franchise QB. If I'm wrong I'll eat the crow pie.

We agree. I will add that if haskins lives up to his potential, he will owe Mike Tomlin everything for having a NFL career. Mike is probably one of the best equipped guys in the nFL from a leadership perspective to turn Haskins around.

[Captain Lemming]

did tomlin try to mentor paxton lynch while here too?
another 1st round QB that quickly fell from grace

I never heard that Paxtons problems were akin to Haskins. If Haskins issues are fixable with mentoring it goes to that skillset. I never got the feeling Lynchs issues were maturity issues.

[Steel Maniac]

I see on the last day of camp, Tomlin is having a long talk with Haskins… and Rooney and Colbert are by his side. So their really trying to build/coach this guy up.

[Shawn]

I never heard that Paxtons problems were akin to Haskins. If Haskins issues are fixable with mentoring it goes to that skillset. I never got the feeling Lynchs issues were maturity issues.

Paxton was rumored to have some serious laziness issues. Also, he didn't understand the game. He didn't even appear to want to understand the game. He couldn't presnap read well because of this and failed to go through progressions. Thats a very different beast than Haskins. Haskins does understand the game. He does presnap read and can run deep into his progressions.

[hawaiiansteel]

I see on the last day of camp, Tomlin is having a long talk with Haskins… and Rooney and Colbert are by his side. So their really trying to build/coach this guy up.

it's so easy to see that Rooney doesn't care about winning.

[feltdizz]

it's so easy to see that Rooney doesn't care about winning.

yeah.. this is the problem with people who post emotionally and just toss stuff at the board. It makes one look delusional when they come back to reality and post actual facts.

[whisper]

I find these kinds of statement as lacking any insight or intellect. What's the difference in those QBs and Haskins? There was a change in the kinds of talent tOSU has been recruiting and getting commitments from in recent years. All those you listed were terrible QBs. Not a single one of them would I have thought of as NFL talent. They were system QBs with mobility. Haskins is a classic pocket passer, and as Alex Smith said "crazy gifted". He is a 3-4 read deep, pin point accurate, perfect mechanics, big armed QB. He is on a different planet than OSU QBs who came before him. He ushered in a new era of OSU QBs. So to look at a school and say so and so came from this school therefore he will fail is peanut brained. Look at the film. Watch his head. Watch what he does under pressure. Look at him thread needles. Watch how he senses pressure and adjusts in the pocket to get an extra second of time. He does all the little things well.

And all the above won't matter; you can't polish a turd. Wait and see. You will be proven wrong.

[Steel Maniac]

yeah.. this is the problem with people who post emotionally and just toss stuff at the board. It makes one look delusional when they come back to reality and post actual facts.

As usual, you two love to take things out of context. Especially Mr. "Butt hurt". Always making up stuff from one thread to another. And if you want to talk about delusional, talk about how delusional it looks when your still lobbying for Bell even after his flops in New York and Kansas City and he's unemployed with no suitors. That's delusional.

[feltdizz]

As usual, you two love to take things out of context. Especially Mr. "Butt hurt". Always making up stuff from one thread to another. And if you want to talk about delusional, talk about how delusional it looked when your lobbying for Bell even after his flops in New York and Kansas City. That's delusional.

Rooney's are very content to win 8 games a year; They do not seem to be concerned with consistent playoff failures. They are happy that we support this team with our money. They don't care about winning Super Bowls anymore. I submit to you the evidence of the last ten years as proof.

Checkmate

[Steel Maniac]

Checkmate

Not a checkmate at all… as usual out of context.

Rooney’s overall attitude and Rooney’s specific interest in a player don’t have to be the same thing. Wanting a guy to pan out at his position isn’t necessarily the same as his organizational philosophy.

Sorry… your wrong again. Just like the Leveon Bell thing.

[hawaiiansteel]

Sorry… your wrong again.

why don't you tell us again about how Cowher was the better coach because he drafted earlier than Tomlin?

[feltdizz]

Not a checkmate at all… as usual out of context.

Rooney’s overall attitude and Rooney’s specific interest in a player don’t have to be the same thing. Wanting a guy to pan out at his position isn’t necessarily the same as his organizational philosophy.

Sorry… your wrong again. Just like the Leveon Bell thing.

You are quoted saying Rooney doesn’t care about winning. You have said this more than one time and others have called you on it.

its all good tho, I know you probably don’t remember most of the hot takes you have on here towards the org.

[feltdizz]

why don't you tell us again about how Cowher was the better coach because he drafted earlier than Tomlin?

haha.. that was hilarious.

He was too quick on the draw with that one.

[Northern_Blitz]

Not a checkmate at all… as usual out of context.

Rooney’s overall attitude and Rooney’s specific interest in a player don’t have to be the same thing. Wanting a guy to pan out at his position isn’t necessarily the same as his organizational philosophy.

Sorry… your wrong again. Just like the Leveon Bell thing.

Maniac.

This doesn't make sense.

If Rooney didn't care about winning, he'd spend below the cap like the Bengals do.

Just tread water and let the money flow in. And profits are bigger if you only spend to the floor.