Malik Hooker Sighting

[Captain Lemming]

Here's the rundown:

	Missed/broken Rate	Total tackles
M. Hilton	20.3%	51
J. Haden	17.7%	51
M. Fitz	12.2%	79
T. Edmunds	10.8%	66

Wow I AM surprised with Hiltons rep ad a tackler specifically.

I predict right now that Cincy regrets the deal with Hilton before contract ends.

People who hate Tomlin don't follow what players look like when they leave.

People ask what does Tomlin do well? He gets the most out of his players. Proof?

Rarely does a player who leaves produce as he does as a Steeler. They mostly bomb post Steelers. We are not just talking old guys. Guys in their prime.

Fact is we always overrate our roster talent.

[NorthCoast]

Wow I AM surprised with Hiltons rep ad a tackler specifically.

I predict right now that Cincy regrets the deal with Hilton before contract ends.

People who hate Tomlin don't follow what players look like when they leave.

People ask what does Tomlin do well? He gets the most out of his players. Proof?

Rarely does a player who leaves produce as he does as a Steeler. They mostly bomb post Steelers. We are not just talking old guys. Guys in their prime.

Fact is we always overrate our roster talent.

I was surprised about Hilton myself. One in five attempts was a miss. But then again playing in the slot he has to tackle TEs and RBs that probably outweigh him by 25 lbs. But he doesn't seem to have a problem getting a QB down on a blitz. Who knows.

Your point on Tomlin is right on. But it's something hard to quantify so people gloss over it.

[feltdizz]

I was surprised about Hilton myself. One in five attempts was a miss. But then again playing in the slot he has to tackle TEs and RBs that probably outweigh him by 25 lbs. But he doesn't seem to have a problem getting a QB down on a blitz. Who knows.

Your point on Tomlin is right on. But it's something hard to quantify so people gloss over it.

that is because most QB’s didn’t see Hilton coming.

[hawaiiansteel]

Your point on Tomlin is right on. But it's something hard to quantify so people gloss over it.

that's because it doesn't fit their agenda, so they gloss over it.

[feltdizz]

That is how I remember it. I believe that there were several comments here regularly the first half or so of the season. Edmunds was playing his best football in a Steeler uniform. He was also one of many who fell off the cliff after the 11-0 start. Along with many others, Edmunds was awful to end the season. That should not take away from his earlier play when thinking about what he can be moving forward.

I don’t think Edwards was awful to end the season. Our season ended bad but it wasn’t because our D was terrible. It was our offense or lack of offense that kept putting our D back on the field.

and the reason I think people see what they want with Edmunds is because a lot of fans didn’t want him in the first so naturally, when we start losing who gets called awful? Edmunds.

First 4 games Edmunds gave up a total of 160 passing yards

Last 4 games he gave up 28 passing yards

You can even add the Baltimore game and its still less than his first 4 games.

Cleveland playoff game he gave up 26 passing yards.

Not sure about the running game but you see the stats for missed tackles and Edmunds is the lowest of all DB’s.

So again, I don’t think he was awful, but since we lost games he is viewed as playing awful. Simply not true.

[Northern_Blitz]

Wow I AM surprised with Hiltons rep ad a tackler specifically.

I predict right now that Cincy regrets the deal with Hilton before contract ends.

People who hate Tomlin don't follow what players look like when they leave.

People ask what does Tomlin do well? He gets the most out of his players. Proof?

Rarely does a player who leaves produce as he does as a Steeler. They mostly bomb post Steelers. We are not just talking old guys. Guys in their prime.

Fact is we always overrate our roster talent.

I agree that we seem to have put Hilton in a role that was perfect for him. And that doesn't mean that he'll look as good in another system.

Here's hoping that he sucks in Cincy.

[Shawn]

Didn’t he blow out his Achilles last season? This would be a depth signing with the hope he recovers at some point next season.

Dude was fun to watch at OSU. He was always around the ball making game changing plays.

IMO Hooker was the most talented FS in tOSU history. He had an Ed Reed ceiling. But injury bugs have really set him back. i don't think we will ever know how good he could have really been.

[NJ-STEELER]

	Missed/broken Rate	Total tackles
M. Hilton	20.3%	51
J. Haden	17.7%	51
M. Fitz	12.2%	79
T. Edmunds	10.8%	66

he does need to be better then the rest of the secondary that consists of 2 corners and a ball hawking safety.
that’s kind of what the position calls for

im actually a little surprised fitz percentage is as close to Edmonds.

also, those stats don’t tell the whole story. Taking a wrong angle on a tackle isn’t counted as a missed tackle but can result in a much worse outcome.

Fitz misplay on the Jarvis Landry catch and waltz untouched into the end zone in the playoffs is evidence of that.
the beginning to another **** show performance in the playoffs by the defense.
but i would guess edmunds has more of those types of mistakes then fitz does

[hawaiiansteel]

[feltdizz]

he does need to be better then the rest of the secondary that consists of 2 corners and a ball hawking safety.
that’s kind of what the position calls for

im actually a little surprised fitz percentage is as close to Edmonds.

also, those stats don’t tell the whole story. Taking a wrong angle on a tackle isn’t counted as a missed tackle but can result in a much worse outcome.

Fitz misplay on the Jarvis Landry catch and waltz untouched into the end zone in the playoffs is evidence of that.
the beginning to another **** show performance in the playoffs by the defense.
but i would guess edmunds has more of those types of mistakes then fitz does

why would Edmunds have more of those type of mistakes? I think Fitz gambles more often and is a worse tackler than Edmunds so I think we will continue to see Edmunds with the least amount of missed tackles or taking bad angles that result in completions.

Fitz will have more splash plays tho.