Day 2 exodus replacements

[steeler_george]

As expected we lost

Hilton ( is he replaced by a true CB or a S or a hybrid S/LB, after all Sutton was our true slot CB))

Vince Williams ( replaced via Spillan, but will upgrade poistion by draft)

Dupree ( this is really who replaces Highsmith as 3rd OLB)

unexpected,

Alualu (surprised he left, but we all questioned Alualu signing when he was 1st signed, so next man up)

So who do you guys got as replacements, Roster, FA, or draft.

[SteelBucks]

Replacements won’t be a problem on defense but we now have zero depth. Alualu was a depth guy for Tuitt, Spillane for Bush, Highsmith for Bud. Two of these three are now penciled in as starters.

Lots of time between now and September. Steelers are usually pretty good at finding value after the FA frenzy dies down.

I’d still like to spend the majority of the draft on Center, Tackle and RB. Going to have to sprinkle in some defense.

[steeler_george]

Yes depth is going to be the key,

At minimum, I hope we resign a starting center in FA, also resign our FA in Wormley, S.Davis on league vet min, anything brought in would be a plus.


In draft, RB, OT, WR, 2nd TE, and rest all D ( starter ILB, OLB depth, CB depth, DL depth)

[Chucktownsteeler]

Replacements won’t be a problem on defense but we now have zero depth. Alualu was a depth guy for Tuitt, Spillane for Bush, Highsmith for Bud. Two of these three are now penciled in as starters.

Lots of time between now and September. Steelers are usually pretty good at finding value after the FA frenzy dies down.

I’d still like to spend the majority of the draft on Center, Tackle and RB. Going to have to sprinkle in some defense.

I agree with this draft strategy.

[pfelix73]

I agree with this draft strategy.

Do you know how silly that sounds? He mentioned he wants to spend the majority of draft on 3 positions. Maybe he means something other than what he posted, but using most picks on 3 positions? come on.

Lets see who they sign, re-sign 1st be fore we discuss the draft. Too early for that.

[SteelBucks]

Do you know how silly that sounds? He mentioned he wants to spend the majority of draft on 3 positions. Maybe he means something other than what he posted, but using most picks on 3 positions? come on.

Lets see who they sign, re-sign 1st be fore we discuss the draft. Too early for that.

I said majority, not all. We have eight picks but would like to see early selections to get the running game going. That means OL and a back to replace Conner. What’s silly about that? Come on.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

Replacements won’t be a problem on defense but we now have zero depth. Alualu was a depth guy for Tuitt, Spillane for Bush, Highsmith for Bud. Two of these three are now penciled in as starters.

Lots of time between now and September. Steelers are usually pretty good at finding value after the FA frenzy dies down.

I’d still like to spend the majority of the draft on Center, Tackle and RB. Going to have to sprinkle in some defense.

It's a double cut for the Steelers. They lose quality players and they can not afford any injures in a game that will deal a few.

Good coaching is needed. Take Munchak for example. He was such a good coach, the next man up in his unit played beyond expectations. We don't have a coach like that anymore. This should be a re-build draft, not a bandaid draft / free agency. The Steelers seem to think they can make the playoffs this season.. Maybe they can. I don't see it snd if we do it will be a 1 and done playoffs. What about the future?

Relying on coaching to win games hasn't worked for us outside of OL Next man up issues and that was in the past. Don't look now but we play FIVE playoff teams on the ROAD, each of which won a playoff game in 2020. Tomlin's record on the road and is an ongoing issue when we had talent. Its even worse when the Steelers have to travel west. I do not know why, it just is. Some coaches are really good at keeping their teams attention on road gains, others are not.

[NorthCoast]

It's a double cut for the Steelers. They lose quality players and they can not afford any injures in a game that will deal a few.

Good coaching is needed. Take Munchak for example. He was such a good coach, the next man up in his unit played beyond expectations. We don't have a coach like that anymore. This should be a re-build draft, not a bandaid draft / free agency. The Steelers seem to think they can make the playoffs this season.. Maybe they can. I don't see it snd if we do it will be a 1 and done playoffs. What about the future?

Relying on coaching to win games hasn't worked for us outside of OL Next man up issues and that was in the past. Don't look now but we play FIVE playoff teams on the ROAD, each of which won a playoff game in 2020. Tomlin's record on the road and is an ongoing issue when we had talent. Its even worse when the Steelers have to travel west. I do not know why, it just is. Some coaches are really good at keeping their teams attention on road gains, others are not.

You must be thinking early Tomlin years when talking about road record. Excluding 2019, Tomlin is pretty much 0.500 on away games. As far as schedule opponents, it's impossible to say what the SOS will be like given all the player movement this season. Last year the Steelers were predicted to have one of the easiest schedules but it didn't turn out that way when looking at W/L records.

But I agree on coaching. They are gonna need it. Tunch made some interesting comments on Munchak on SNR the other day. He said Munchak's true shining point as a coach was the in-game stuff that he did with players. He would see where they were struggling in their assignments, pull them aside and tell them exactly what they needed to do to correct it. Tunch said this worked to instill great confidence in the players. I hope Klemm has some of this in him. Just ripping on a player for bad play without giving him guidance to improve is probably the worst kind of coaching.

[Chadman]

There’s some potential pitfalls for this upcoming season. As was pointed out, depth is going to be tested. Injuries will happen. And the Steelers have turned depth players into starters right now. Unlike in other seasons, I’d advocate signing ‘end of the road’ players that just want one last shot at it, to fill some of the depth at ILB, RB, OL, DL and OLB. Guys like Adrian Petersen (not necessarily him, but like him) that want one last tilt. These are not to be relied on as starters. But if you can squeeze the orange one last time, get them to contribute to a level above the league minimum wage, then you have value. There are going to be a lot of young players relied on this season. What I don’t want is younger players behind the only. A vet OT, ILB, OLB and NT, maybe a RB. Sprinkle in a Jesse James type FA. The draft needs to produce starter quality OL (at least one, maybe 2) and probably a RB (although there is value in a cheap James Connor, LeVeon Bell, Adrian Petersen- mixed with McFarland, Snell etc).

In some ways the reduced salary cap might help, as there will probably be some decent veteran players available once the good money dries up, still looking for a roster spot. If you fill the gaps with 1 year contract guys.....the Patriots made many teams based on theories similar to this.

Lastly.....if the Steelers can add a starter quality Center or Tackle in FA....I’m not 100% against drafting ILB in Round 1 to partner Bush. Stopping the run was an issue last year.

[Chucktownsteeler]

Do you know how silly that sounds? He mentioned he wants to spend the majority of draft on 3 positions. Maybe he means something other than what he posted, but using most picks on 3 positions? come on.

Lets see who they sign, re-sign 1st be fore we discuss the draft. Too early for that.

First of all, I do agree with the draft strategy of RB, OT, WR, 2nd TE, and rest all D ( starter ILB, OLB depth, CB depth, DL depth). Not sure why that is silly but it does represent needs at this. We have needs in all these areas and I don't think you'll see the Steelers as big players in the FA market. They just don't have the cap space.

[feltdizz]

First of all, I do agree with the draft strategy of RB, OT, WR, 2nd TE, and rest all D ( starter ILB, OLB depth, CB depth, DL depth). Not sure why that is silly but it does represent needs at this. We have needs in all these areas and I don't think you'll see the Steelers as big players in the FA market. They just don't have the cap space.

spending the majority of picks on 3 positions reads funny..like you would use the bulk of picks on 3 positions.

I think we will go RB, OL, DL, OLB and WR in no particular order.

[Chucktownsteeler]

spending the majority of picks on 3 positions reads funny..like you would use the bulk of picks on 3 positions.

I think we will go RB, OL, DL, OLB and WR in no particular order.

I guess I am missing the humor or too much is being read into it. I think we have 7 draft picks and they are represented above. OL, RB, TE, and WR should be a priority. Anything funny in that escapes me. The rest of the picks I would think an ILB, CB, and DL depth would be considered.

Don't see the humoer, it is not like I said trade all 7 picks to move up for Trevor Lawrence. Now that is funny.

[SteelBucks]

spending the majority of picks on 3 positions reads funny..like you would use the bulk of picks on 3 positions.

I think we will go RB, OL, DL, OLB and WR in no particular order.

I guess I wrote it wrong. Fixing the running game involves multiple picks on offense. I’m not implying to ignore the defense.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

I guess I am missing the humor or too much is being read into it. I think we have 7 draft picks and they are represented above. OL, RB, TE, and WR should be a priority. Anything funny in that escapes me. The rest of the picks I would think an ILB, CB, and DL depth would be considered.

Don't see the humoer, it is not like I said trade all 7 picks to move up for Trevor Lawrence. Now that is funny.

We need like 10 picks and to do a better job on rookie free agents. I think WR is a tier two need. We've got Claypool, Johnson and Washington. A slot man is a need. A return man is not.

TE is a need just not a primary need. We pay Ebron 8.5 million a year and have nothing behind him.

Jacksonville is so lucky its not even funny. They spend one pick on Lawrence, have nine more to use ( another 1st, two 2nd's ), play a weak schedule and have $47,195,679 on cap space.

There is hope and if they do it right can quickly become a playoff team. It's on their GM. If they trade Lawerence, they could still get one of the top 3 QB's's and pick up an additional 7 draft picks . How about this? Jacksonville trades for Russell Wilson and obtain Seattle's #1, #2, #3 and #4 for this year and next year and maybe a #1 in 2023 in exchange for the #1 overall pick in 2021. Seattle would unload about 40 million on the cap and re-load too. Such options should be illegal!

[feltdizz]

We need like 10 picks and to do a better job on rookie free agents. I think WR is a tier two need. We've got Claypool, Johnson and Washington. A slot man is a need. A return man is not.

TE is a need just not a primary need. We pay Ebron 8.5 million a year and have nothing behind him.

Jacksonville is so lucky its not even funny. They spend one pick on Lawrence, have nine more to use ( another 1st, two 2nd's ), play a weak schedule and have $47,195,679 on cap space.

There is hope and if they do it right can quickly become a playoff team. It's on their GM. If they trade Lawerence, they could still get one of the top 3 QB's's and pick up an additional 7 draft picks . How about this? Jacksonville trades for Russell Wilson and obtain Seattle's #1, #2, #3 and #4 for this year and next year and maybe a #1 in 2023 in exchange for the #1 overall pick in 2021. Seattle would unload about 40 million on the cap and re-load too. Such options should be illegal!

well, you have to be pretty bad to have options like this a available.

As enticing as trading for Wilson sounds, I would prefer risking it with Lawrence on a rookie contract vs taking on Wilson’s huge contract even tho Wilson is a lock and Lawrence is 50/50 as a legit NFL franchise QB.