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  • Joel Buchsbaum
    Legend
    • Jan 2021
    • 7744

    The Rooney rule is a very uneven rule. It doesn't count if your are a minority of Asian or Jewish decent for example. It doesn't cover women and many others. In fact an Asian candidate for a coaching position was told " He's not the minority they are looking for " Oh he was a player and a coach.

    As far as racism goes, the NFL should not talk after clearly insulting and ripping off African Americans preventing them from suing from concussion / health injures because in the NFL says they test lower on some IQ test, therefore were not robbed of cognitive abilities. Never mind the fact that the guy can barely walk or even remember something. If the NFL had integrity, they would be busy writing checks to those who wanted to sue, but were prevented from doing so from this " rule " It's not like that can't afford it.

    Thats the Rooney rule needed. Owners are going to hire who they wish.
    Last edited by Joel Buchsbaum; 06-11-2021, 05:25 PM.
    Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

    Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

    *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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    • feltdizz
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 27531

      Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
      I too remember that game but calling it the worst loss is not fair. Cowher in fact lost to bad teams ( .500 or below ) less often than Tomlin. Houston did nothing at all on offense that day, but lucked into collecting 5 turnovers. Anyway the Steelers finished 10-5-1 that year and won a playoff game, barely losing the next one.

      Leading players?

      The QB was Maddox, the leading rusher was Zereoue. Ward was leading WR. Not exactly who you want a team leaders, except for Ward. Anyway, Cowher quickly righted the Ship winning three games in a row to close the season, scoring 30 points twice.

      Given who he had to work with I say 10-5-1 with a playoff win was a good job by Cowher, wouldn't you? Heck we have not won a playoff game in a while...
      wait.. you excuse bad losses by presenting more wins but when people point out Tomlin’s overall winning percentage its shrugs. How is it not fair to call it the worst loss when the other team has 47 yards of offense?

      and if we are blaming personnel, check out our leading rushers vs Denver for both playoff losses and the Cleveland loss this year.
      Last edited by feltdizz; 06-11-2021, 04:59 PM.
      Steelers 27
      Rats 16

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      • BURGH86STEEL
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 6921

        Originally posted by feltdizz
        wait.. you excuse bad loses by presenting more wins but when people point out Tomlin’s overall winning percentage its shrugs.

        and if we are blaming personnel, check out our leading rushers vs Denver for both playoff losses and the Cleveland loss this year.
        It would be the Steelers haven't made the playoffs in a while if they failed to win in the regular season.

        So the story now is we haven't won a playoff game in a while.

        If the Steelers won a playoff game the story would be they haven't won a SuperBowl in a while.

        The Steelers will never win with the move the goal posts individuals.

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        • Mr.wizard
          Legend
          • May 2014
          • 6686

          Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
          The Rooney rule is a very uneven rule. It doesn't count if your are a minority of Asian or Jewish decent for example. It doesn't cover women and many others. In fact an Asian candidate for a coaching position was told " He's not the minority they are looking for " Oh he was a player and a coach.

          As far as racism goes, the NFL should not talk after clearly insulting and ripping off African Americans preventing them from suing from concussion / health injures because in the NFL says they test lower on some IQ test, therefore were not robbed of cognitive abilities. Never mind the fact that the guy can barely walk or even remember something. If the NFL had integrity, they would be busy writing checks to those who wanted to sue, but were prevented from doing so from this " rule " It's not like that can't afford it.

          Thats the Rooney rule needed. Owners are going to hire who they wish.
          Thats not true, the rule includes all ethnic minorities.

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          • whatever
            Legend
            • Sep 2019
            • 5795

            Originally posted by feltdizz
            Cowher didn’t put value on a franchise QB.

            If he did we probably wouldn’t have the defenses we loved back then.

            This is also a man who saw Jim Miller as a starter and went with Tommy Gun for a few years.

            I don’t even put all the blame on Cowher. We had a formula and franchise QB wasn’t at the top of the list.

            and no, you can’t ignore Cowher wanting to take a Tackle when Ben was available. That is evidence this isn’t all on Colbert. Weird to have a built in excuse and praise Cowher for failing all those years.

            You are the one who said AFCCG’s are failures.
            Again, what qbs did cowher pass over?
            How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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            • BURGH86STEEL
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 6921

              Originally posted by whatever
              Again, what qbs did cowher pass over?
              This question was answered before. Brees and Brady were two HOF QB's that the Steelers passed on. Cowher wanted to draft Shawn Andrews instead of Ben but was over ruled by Rooney. So that's at least 3 HOF QBs.

              There were probably 2 or 3 other quality QB's that the Steelers passed on when Cowher was HC. I think Pennington could had done well in the run 1st defensive system that Cowher helped to build.

              Batch and Hasselback were also QB's the Steelers had the opportunity to draft. I don't have time to look up every draft. The Steelers had opportunities to draft decent QB's in the Cowher era.
              Last edited by BURGH86STEEL; 06-15-2021, 08:36 PM.

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              • feltdizz
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 27531

                Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
                This question was answered before. Brees and Brady were two HOF QB's that the Steelers passed on. Cowher wanted to draft Shawn Andrews instead of Ben but was over ruled by Rooney. So that's at least 3 HOF QBs.

                There were probably 2 or 3 other quality QB's that the Steelers passed on when Cowher was HC. I think Pennington could had done well in the run 1st defensive system that Cowher helped to build.

                Batch and Hasselback were also QB's the Steelers had the opportunity to draft. I don't have time to look up every draft. The Steelers had opportunities to draft decent QB's in the Cowher era.
                I would add Jake Plummer, Mark Bulger and Culpepper to that list.

                Culpepper was drafted 2 spots ahead of us in 99. If all Cowher needed was a QB he could’ve moved up 2 spots to get Culpepper.
                Steelers 27
                Rats 16

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                • NorthCoast
                  Legend
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 26636

                  Another plus for the HC in getting players to do what is right:

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                  • hawaiiansteel
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 35649

                    Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                    Do like I did and just put it in your sig and don’t discuss it anymore.

                    Time always proves who’s right.

                    Just put it in your sig and leave it be.

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