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  • Joel Buchsbaum
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    • Jan 2021
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    What a NFL franchise team needs.

    So you are a fan of a certain franchise in the NFL. In my opinion here's what you need the most in order to win a superbowl. As post like this is not easy, I reserve the right to change the list after feedback.

    Tier one needs:

    1. Franchise QB. If you don't have one, you'd better draft one, and if you miss draft another who might be it. No part of the puzzle is as valuable. Sure you can win without one if you have an all time type of defense and a top running game, but these days who does?

    2. A really good GM, ( Never heard of the term franchise GM ) after all he has the say in the cap, the off -season free agency moves and the draft. Probably the most underrated piece of the puzzle.

    3. Owner, you can't fire him so he or she better know what's going on. He hires the GM and the Head coach which is why I place the owner here. I think Dan was a really good one, Art II, the jury is out.

    4. Head coach. The best ones run the offense or the defense, and don't delegate responsibility too much, know how to handle their high maintenance players , understand how to manage the clock, Understand how to put their players in position to succeed. and win more than not in the playoffs. The Head coach also hired the OC and DC, and picks the staff of positional coaches. For some reason a coach's first 10 years are usually his best with the franchise.

    5. Star Pass rusher. Ether 4-3 or 4-3. The really good ones can change the game.

    6. Star WR. You can find a pro bowl level WR on almost every team that wins the Super Bowl. Hopefully he's not a diva, because diva's seldom win super bowls.

    7. Star CB. A player who can limit the best WR, and produce turnovers that can win games.


    Tier two needs:


    8. Left Tackle. The blindside defender is a valuable asset. I can not recall the last team to win a championship without a good one.

    9. Middle linebacker. These days a linebacker that can stuff the run, tackle the ball carrier, and cover people well in pass coverage are in demand. A 3 down player.

    10. Running back. My how this position has fallen. A back who can run, catch, and block is still the best chain mover in football.

    11. Tight End. Match up weapons, these days TE's are very tall and can move. Few block well. The best are hard to limit.

    12. Coverage safety. Either spot, the man who produces forced fumbles or turnovers can key the defense.

    13. Other starting cornerback. You just can't have an average one. That will cost you.

    12. Defensive line ( non pass rusher ) starter. A player who can stuff the run and put some heat on the pass rusher is a need for the defense.

    13. Right tackle. These players are usually extra strong blocking for the run, and better at pass blocking than the interior layers.

    14. Other starting WR. Ideally he complements the #1 WR.

    15. #2 starting DL ( Non pass rusher ) the big guy up front are a needed more than the other poisons below:


    Tier 3 needs:

    Outside Linebacker ( non pass rushing star ) , Center, Other starting Safety, nickel slot corner, Kicker, #1 Guard, Back up QB, Dime defender, #2 Guard, Slot WR. back up OL player, A bum kicker can sink you, he'd better be at least average. These days there are few bum kickers.


    Tier #4 needs:


    Punter, Long Snapper, Back up players at all other spots, Kick coverage players on special teams, kick returner. It really doesn't matter much who you punter is, but a really good one can save you 15+ yards a game or make a key punt to get a team out of trouble.

    So what do you think? I think you should match value with need, and IMO our biggest needs using a chart like this are:


    #1 QB. Ben is old and very expensive

    #2. Starting Running back. Next season!

    #3 OL, just because it's a huge need and age and free agency are going to cripple this unit.If the value is right, start with Tackle. Next up Center, and last Guard.

    #4 Head Coach. Tomlin's disappointing seasons, collapses, and not winning a playoff game since 2016 suggests a change is needed. Since that did not happen in 2021, and Tomlin has a year left, it can happen in 2022 when Tomlin's contract is up. His choices for OC and DC were not good ones either.

    #5 Cornerback. While ours are decent, they are expensive and one of very old. Free agency will take a bite out of this unit too.

    Hopefully Colbert sticks as a the GM, but if he goes, adjust the list accordingly.
    Last edited by Joel Buchsbaum; 01-26-2021, 03:54 PM.
    Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

    Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

    *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***
  • Northern_Blitz
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    • Dec 2008
    • 24373

    #2
    Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
    So you are a fan of a certain franchise in the NFL. In my opinion here's what you need the most in order to win a superbowl. As post like this is not easy, I reserve the right to change the list after feedback.

    Tier one needs:

    1. Franchise QB. If you don't have one, you'd better draft one, and if you miss draft another who might be it. No part of the puzzle is as valuable. Sure you can win without one if you have an all time type of defense and a top running game, but these days who does?

    2. A really good GM, ( Never heard of the term franchise GM ) after all he has the say in the cap, the off -season free agency moves and the draft. Probably the most underrated piece of the puzzle.

    3. Owner, you can't fire him so he or she better know what's going on. He hires the GM and the Head coach which is why I place the owner here. I think Dan was a really good one, Art II, the jury is out.

    4. Head coach. The best ones run the offense or the defense, and don't delegate responsibility too much, know how to handle their high maintenance players , understand how to manage the clock, Understand how to put their players in position to succeed. and win more than not in the playoffs. The Head coach also hired the OC and DC, and picks the staff of positional coaches. For some reason a coach's first 10 years are usually his best with the franchise.

    5. Star Pass rusher. Ether 4-3 or 4-3. The really good ones can change the game.

    6. Star WR. You can find a pro bowl level WR on almost every team that wins the Super Bowl. Hopefully he's not a diva, because diva's seldom win super bowls.

    7. Star CB. A player who can limit the best WR, and produce turnovers that can win games.


    Tier two needs:


    8. Left Tackle. The blindside defender is a valuable asset. I can not recall the last team to win a championship without a good one.

    9. Middle linebacker. These days a linebacker that can stuff the run, tackle the ball carrier, and cover people well in pass coverage are in demand. A 3 down player.

    10. Running back. My how this position has fallen. A back who can run, catch, and block is still the best chain mover in football.

    11. Tight End. Match up weapons, these days TE's are very tall and can move. Few block well. The best are hard to limit.

    12. Coverage safety. Either spot, the man who produces forced fumbles or turnovers can key the defense.

    13. Other starting cornerback. You just can't have an average one. That will cost you.

    12. Defensive line ( non pass rusher ) starter. A player who can stuff the run and put some heat on the pass rusher is a need for the defense.

    13. Right tackle. These players are usually extra strong blocking for the run, and better at pass blocking than the interior layers.

    14. Other starting WR. Ideally he complements the #1 WR.

    15. #2 starting DL ( Non pass rusher ) the big guy up front are a needed more than the other poisons below:


    Tier 3 needs:

    Outside Linebacker ( non pass rushing star ) , Center, Other starting Safety, nickel slot corner, Kicker, #1 Guard, Back up QB, Dime defender, #2 Guard, Slot WR. back up OL player, A bum kicker can sink you, he'd better be at least average. These days there are few bum kickers.


    Tier #4 needs:


    Punter, Long Snapper, Back up players at all other spots, Kick coverage players on special teams, kick returner. It really doesn't matter much who you punter is, but a really good one can save you 15+ yards a game or make a key punt to get a team out of trouble.

    So what do you think? I think you should match value with need, and IMO our biggest needs using a chart like this are:


    #1 QB. Ben is old and very expensive

    #2. Starting Running back. Next season!

    #3 OL, just because it's a huge need and age and free agency are going to cripple this unit.If the value is right, start with Tackle. Next up Center, and last Guard.

    #4 Head Coach. Tomlin's disappointing seasons, collapses, and not winning a playoff game since 2016 suggests a change is needed. Since that did not happen in 2021, and Tomlin has a year left, it can happen in 2022 when Tomlin's contract is up. His choices for OC and DC were not good ones either.

    #5 Cornerback. While ours are decent, they are expensive and one of very old. Free agency will take a bite out of this unit too.

    Hopefully Colbert sticks as a the GM, but if he goes, adjust the list accordingly.
    That's a cool read, thanks.

    I think the top tier is just about right.

    Nice to see GM listed so high. I think roster construction is very important and all cap leagues are starting to see the importance of cap management.

    I think owner is a hard one to place. If you have a terrible owner, not even a franchise QB can save you IMO. But there are diminishing returns to how good your team is based on ownership.

    I kind of feel similarly with HCs. Terrible ones can sink teams. I think the best ones really only make it so that the talent can shine through. It might be because it's not how the Steelers run, but I disagree that the best HCs run one side of the ball. I think HCs are best when they focus on game management, make decisions in critical situations based on win% and not job security, and willingly take input from smart coordinators.

    I think I would put star WR in tier 2, or at least at the bottom of tier 1. I'd much rather have a star CB than a star WR.

    Re: Coaching changes. I think it will be interesting to see if they re-up Tomlin in the off season. Ben and Colbert are nearing the end. Will they want a clean slate, or carry Tomlin into the rebuild. My guess is that they bring him along.
    Last edited by Northern_Blitz; 01-26-2021, 04:49 PM.

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    • Joel Buchsbaum
      Legend
      • Jan 2021
      • 7744

      #3
      We can fill a lot of needs now and in 2022. The question is, will the for the better.
      Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

      Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

      *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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