Congrats Bruce Arians

[Northern_Blitz]

AB had problems in New England, they booted him after one year. The Raiders who had him for a short time quickly parted ways with him too and got crushed on the cap

https://www.businessinsider.com/antonio-brown-timeline-bizarre-year-patriots-raiders-rape-allegation-2019-9

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/09/16/antonio-brown-new-england-patriots-lawsuits-accusations-sexual-midconduct-assault

Now how many problems did he had on Arians team.? I think he deserves some credit, and like I said has a knack for getting trouble players to focus.

My understanding was that it was the rape allegations that had him leave NE.

Maybe I'm misrembering though?

[feltdizz]

Brown was pretty quiet this year. Arians was a reason why. He set the tone and rules.

Tomlin did stupid things like ban locker room games, allow AB to " trade " Jersey's with the opposing team and such. Mixed messages.

On Brown, Tomlin said " We'll tolerate it now because of what he brings on the field, but the minute production stops, you don't overlook it,'"

Well, the production did slow down to stop. Brown was kept in line by Arians.

And no it was not Brady. AB was an idiot up in New England too.

Bell was handled poorly. I felt he wasn't the same player asking for his second contact ( He declined the year before ) , and I'm very glad he didn't sign with the Steelers.

IMO Teams with diva receivers DO NOT win championships. Can't recall the time the last one did.

no.. this is wrong. all of it is wrong.

AB didn’t do anything idiotic in NE. Brady wanted to keep him but management didnt want the negative PR from his civil suit.

and exchanging jerseys? What’s wrong with that? It’s been a tradition for years.

Bell’s situation was strictly business. The FO restricted him from testing the market and he was frustrated and sat out which was within the CBA. Tomlin had nothing to do with that.

I don’t think BA worked any magic with AB. I think whoever got AB this year would’ve had the same results because AB realized this was his last chance to play in the NFL.

[feltdizz]

My understanding was that it was the rape allegations that had him leave NE.

Maybe I'm misrembering though?

it was.. and it was because he refused to pay her off. Which meant it would be in the news and there would be an investigation.. and more than likely a suspension.

But all that happened before he got to NE.

[hawaiiansteel]

AB had problems in New England, they booted him after one year.

you're totally wrong.

you should check your facts first.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

no.. this is wrong. all of it is wrong.

AB didn’t do anything idiotic in NE. Brady wanted to keep him but management didnt want the negative PR from his civil suit.

and exchanging jerseys? What’s wrong with that? It’s been a tradition for years.

Bell’s situation was strictly business. The FO restricted him from testing the market and he was frustrated and sat out which was within the CBA. Tomlin had nothing to do with that.

I don’t think BA worked any magic with AB. I think whoever got AB this year would’ve had the same results because AB realized this was his last chance to play in the NFL.

You don't think, but the bottom line is this. Brown behaved in Tampa and did not elsewhere, so Arians based on that deserves some credit. Search around or ask, Bruce is good reaching trouble players.

Brown would get more chances if he can still play, which is the case.

Oh heck yes Brown did some questionable things in NE. His Instagram irked the head coach for example. See he wasn't controlled But on Tampa, I never heard anything bad from him.

https://patriotswire.usatoday.com/2019/09/07/antonio-browns-instagram-post-shows-a-gross-misunderstanding-of-the-patriot-way/

[Joel Buchsbaum]

you're totally wrong.

you should check your facts first.

https://patriotswire.usatoday.com/2019/09/07/antonio-browns-instagram-post-shows-a-gross-misunderstanding-of-the-patriot-way/

Keep in mind Brown did not last long in New England . Just 11 days. A silly Instagram did not help. He was way too diva for them. And it's not like he wasn't producing up there. They jut could not control him. But he didn't act this way in Tampa, did he?

I think this board has issues giving Bruce Arians some credit. He was our best OC under Tomlin and a top level head coach.

[Steel Maniac]

https://patriotswire.usatoday.com/2019/09/07/antonio-browns-instagram-post-shows-a-gross-misunderstanding-of-the-patriot-way/

Keep in mind Brown did not last long in New England . Just 11 days. He was way too diva for them. And it's not like he wasn't producing up there. They jut could not control him. But he didn't act this way in Tampa, did he?

I think this board has an issues giving Bruce Arians some credit. He was our best OC under Tomlin and a top level head coach.

Of course some have a problem. You see how hell bent some are not to not give him any type of credit whatsoever. You see, Arians is doing something that another coach can't seem to do ( no names). So some are taking it as an indictment to that coach. I'm not saying it is or isn't but you can tell that THEY think it is by the way their going at Arians. It's funny to me. That's why I've just sat back and laughed at it.

and the one's who are butt hurt about it will identify themselves in 3, 2, 1..........

[hawaiiansteel]

Of course some have a problem.

that's dripping with irony.

perhaps you should try looking in the mirror.

[feltdizz]

https://patriotswire.usatoday.com/2019/09/07/antonio-browns-instagram-post-shows-a-gross-misunderstanding-of-the-patriot-way/

Keep in mind Brown did not last long in New England . Just 11 days. A silly Instagram did not help. He was way too diva for them. And it's not like he wasn't producing up there. They jut could not control him. But he didn't act this way in Tampa, did he?

I think this board has issues giving Bruce Arians some credit. He was our best OC under Tomlin and a top level head coach.

Some people definitely have an issue with BA. People hated him on the Trib board and on here.

but I think you are wrong about AB in NE. They have had players caught with guns and coke and stood by them. They damn sure didn’t acquire AB after what went down in Pittsburgh and Oakland just to cut him after a tweet or instagram post.

They found out he was going to more-than-likely be suspended so they parted ways with him.

[feltdizz]

that's dripping with irony.

perhaps you should try looking in the mirror.

I’m starting to get the feeling one of these things are just like the other..

just sayin’

[hawaiiansteel]

Keep in mind Brown did not last long in New England . Just 11 days. A silly Instagram did not help. He was way too diva for them.

NE released AB because of his sexual assault allegations.

it had nothing to do with his Instagram post.

[feltdizz]

You don't think, but the bottom line is this. Brown behaved in Tampa and did not elsewhere, so Arians based on that deserves some credit. Search around or ask, Bruce is good reaching trouble players.

Brown would get more chances if he can still play, which is the case.

Oh heck yes Brown did some questionable things in NE. His Instagram irked the head coach for example. See he wasn't controlled But on Tampa, I never heard anything bad from him.

https://patriotswire.usatoday.com/2019/09/07/antonio-browns-instagram-post-shows-a-gross-misunderstanding-of-the-patriot-way/

you do realize that article is from September 7th and Brown was officially signed on September 9th.

If you actually read the article it says NE plans to sign Brown soon. So obviously that didn’t irk management or they wouldn’t have signed him.

[Captain Lemming]

Of course some have a problem. You see how hell bent some are not to not give him any type of credit whatsoever. You see, Arians is doing something that another coach can't seem to do ( no names). So some are taking it as an indictment to that coach. I'm not saying it is or isn't but you can tell that THEY think it is by the way their going at Arians. It's funny to me. That's why I've just sat back and laughed at it.

How many rings without the GOAT at QB?

And BTW, I have been "going at Arians" long before this SB.

[Northern_Blitz]

You don't think, but the bottom line is this. Brown behaved in Tampa and did not elsewhere, so Arians based on that deserves some credit. Search around or ask, Bruce is good reaching trouble players.

Brown would get more chances if he can still play, which is the case.

Oh heck yes Brown did some questionable things in NE. His Instagram irked the head coach for example. See he wasn't controlled But on Tampa, I never heard anything bad from him.

https://patriotswire.usatoday.com/2019/09/07/antonio-browns-instagram-post-shows-a-gross-misunderstanding-of-the-patriot-way/

So Brown behaves for 8 games (after being almost kicked out of the league) in TB and it's good coaching.

But he behaves for 8/9 seasons while putting up HoF number in Pittsburgh and it's bad coaching?

I think your bias is showing.

[Steel Maniac]

How many rings without the GOAT at QB?

And BTW, I have been "going at Arians" long before this SB.

Well, he didn't want to fix the O-line while Winston was QB; as soon as they got Brady, they addressed the line. So assuming they still wouldn't have fixed the line, no ring without Brady. And true.....you've been saying Arian wasn't that great for years now. I was not referring to you when I said, " some". Your usually pretty consistent.