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  • Starlifter
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 5078

    #16
    Originally posted by ikestops85
    I am one of those who thought the loss of Munch would hurt us and during last year I thought I was right. The o-line last year was not very good. Now, not having Ben was surely a part of that but I don't think that accounted for how bad they were in the run game. I'm pleasantly surprised with how well they are playing this year. Especially the young guys. Now I'm thinking that Foster had declined so much last year and he really hurt the line play. With him gone the cohesion of the line seems to be much better.
    When there’s little threat of passing and teams stack up to stop the run - it’s hard to achieve success.
    2014 MNF EXEC CHAMPION!!!

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    • ikestops85
      Hall of Famer
      • Jun 2008
      • 3724

      #17
      Originally posted by Starlifter
      When there’s little threat of passing and teams stack up to stop the run - it’s hard to achieve success.
      Excellent point
      As many on this site think ... The Rooney's suck, Colbert sucks, Tomlin sucks, the coaches suck, and the players suck.

      but Go Steelers!!!

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      • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 10281

        #18
        It's actually pretty impressive when you take a longer term look at some of our Olinemen.

        UDFAs
        AV (converted from DL)
        Foster
        Legursky
        Feiler
        BJ Finney
        Hubbard


        Late rounders
        Banner 4th
        Dotson 4th
        Derwin Gray 7th
        Beachum 7th
        Colon 4th

        And more....The Steelers have gotten good value vs. draft position from the OL over the years.
        http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...to_Mike/to.jpg

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        • Northern_Blitz
          Legend
          • Dec 2008
          • 24373

          #19
          Originally posted by Chucktownsteeler
          I read somewhere on the Internet (so it must be true) that Ben has one of the fastest if not fastest release in the NFL. If true this helps the OL, although I agree Feiher, Chuks, and Dotson have been great additions. Also Ramon Foster may have been kept a year or 2 too long.
          I don't know about release time, but I think he was among the shortest intended air yards in the league in his last full season.

          He's developed into Alex Smith, except that he still throws bombs when he gets single coverage to keep the D honest...sometimes on 3rd and 1 just to piss off some people on line

          Very different from young Ben: Drop back. Shrug off a DE. Then a LB (maybe sustain a broken nose). Bomb it deep because all the DBs assume he's been sacked at least twice already.

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          • NorthCoast
            Legend
            • Sep 2008
            • 26636

            #20
            I see DeCastro returned to practice today. Do you put him in or ride with Dotson??

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            • hawaiiansteel
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 35649

              #21
              Originally posted by NorthCoast
              I see DeCastro returned to practice today. Do you put him in or ride with Dotson??
              easy decision, you put DeCastro back in.

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              • NorthCoast
                Legend
                • Sep 2008
                • 26636

                #22
                Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                easy decision, you put DeCastro back in.
                Not so quick. Dotson is one of the highest rated OL according to PFF.

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                • hawaiiansteel
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 35649

                  #23
                  Originally posted by NorthCoast
                  Not so quick. Dotson is one of the highest rated OL according to PFF.
                  I love what I've seen from Dotson so far, but to me it's a no-brainer to play DeCastro if he's healthy and I'm pretty sure Tomlin agrees with me.

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                  • whisper
                    Legend
                    • Mar 2020
                    • 9423

                    #24
                    Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                    easy decision, you put DeCastro back in.
                    Especially considering what they are paying him.

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                    • NorthCoast
                      Legend
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 26636

                      #25
                      Originally posted by whisper
                      Especially considering what they are paying him.
                      I don't think the Steelers typically put money in front of performance. But, they do have a longstanding policy about not losing your starting job due to injury. DeCastro's decline could be fairly rapid though considering he is often asked to pull on runs and you got to have the quicks to do it.

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                      • The Man of Steel
                        Pro Bowler
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 2236

                        #26
                        Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                        It's actually pretty impressive when you take a longer term look at some of our Olinemen.

                        UDFAs
                        AV (converted from DL)
                        Foster
                        Legursky
                        Feiler
                        BJ Finney
                        Hubbard


                        Late rounders
                        Banner 4th
                        Dotson 4th
                        Derwin Gray 7th
                        Beachum 7th
                        Colon 4th

                        And more....The Steelers have gotten good value vs. draft position from the OL over the years.
                        I just read an article today that the Steelers should make a trade with the Seahawks to get BJ Finney back. Not sure how realistic and necessary that would be.
                        Obviously the standard is the standard.

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                        • feltdizz
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 27531

                          #27
                          Originally posted by NorthCoast
                          Not so quick. Dotson is one of the highest rated OL according to PFF.
                          no way we don’t put DD back in if he has a helmet
                          Steelers 27
                          Rats 16

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                          • Steel Maniac
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2017
                            • 19472

                            #28
                            Originally posted by feltdizz
                            no way we don’t put DD back in if he has a helmet
                            Well all have our eye on DD closely; let's see what he has in the tank.

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