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  • whatever
    Legend
    • Sep 2019
    • 5795

    For the "draft to win now"

    I've seen several posts regarding drafting to win now philosophy.
    Realistically, what positions do you feel would fall into this line of thinking?
    I can only see rb.
    There isn't a spot on defense that is up for competition.
    Offensively, rb and lg are the only ones I see. I doubt a rookie guard could come in a blow away the incumbents.
    I'm, rb is the only spot that could be a difference maker.
    This means the draft is still about planning for the future.
    How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?
  • Steel Maniac
    Banned
    • Apr 2017
    • 19472

    #2
    to win "NOW" ... we need to get the offense up to snuff. And to help every skill position on offense, we need to make sure the line is upgraded. Taking a guy like Cushenberry at # 49 would upgrade
    us in a way that's immediate. Gotta get that running game going because our whole offense will spin off the running game going forward. Cushenberry, Niang, Jackson or Wilson is the way to go. Not a sexy pick but a meat & potatoes pick.

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    • whatever
      Legend
      • Sep 2019
      • 5795

      #3
      Originally posted by Steel Maniac
      to win "NOW" ... we need to get the offense up to snuff. And to help every skill position on offense, we need to make sure the line is upgraded. Taking a guy like Cushenberry at # 49 would upgrade
      us in a way that's immediate. Gotta get that running game going because our whole offense will spin off the running game going forward. Cushenberry, Niang, Jackson or Wilson is the way to go. Not a sexy pick but a meat & potatoes pick.
      Agreed. I'm all for drafting 2 oline in this draft.
      I'm good with going with our first and fourth or second and third picks.
      How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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      • whisper
        Legend
        • Mar 2020
        • 9423

        #4
        Originally posted by whatever
        I've seen several posts regarding drafting to win now philosophy.
        Realistically, what positions do you feel would fall into this line of thinking?
        I can only see rb.
        There isn't a spot on defense that is up for competition.

        No? What about NT and one of the ILB spots? Unless the dude from the XFL rocks at NT (I have some hope in him) we only have back ups at NT, and we all agree Vince isn't a ILB we want on the field too much, soooo...............

        Offensively, rb and lg are the only ones I see. I doubt a rookie guard could come in a blow away the incumbents.
        I'm, rb is the only spot that could be a difference maker.

        OG often can do the job as rookies. Not always but it's not unheard of. DeCastro and Faneca both started as rookies.


        This means the draft is still about planning for the future.
        The draft mostly is about the future, but there are exceptions, especially today.

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        • steelerkeylargo
          Hall of Famer
          • Mar 2009
          • 2507

          #5
          Originally posted by whatever
          I've seen several posts regarding drafting to win now philosophy.
          Realistically, what positions do you feel would fall into this line of thinking?
          I can only see rb.
          There isn't a spot on defense that is up for competition.
          Offensively, rb and lg are the only ones I see. I doubt a rookie guard could come in a blow away the incumbents.
          I'm, rb is the only spot that could be a difference maker.
          This means the draft is still about planning for the future.
          While I agree that the Steelers should not be drafting to "win now" (nor do I think Colbert does), to say there isn't a spot on the D that is open to competition would be false. NT, ILB and SS are definitely open to competition.






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          • whisper
            Legend
            • Mar 2020
            • 9423

            #6
            Originally posted by steelerkeylargo
            While I agree that the Steelers should not be drafting to "win now" (nor do I think Colbert does), to say there isn't a spot on the D that is open to competition would be false. NT, ILB and SS are definitely open to competition.
            No way is SS open, they would have to admit they crapped their pants in drafting Edmunds in the 1st round to say that is true.

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            • steelerkeylargo
              Hall of Famer
              • Mar 2009
              • 2507

              #7
              Originally posted by whisper
              No way is SS open, they would have to admit they crapped their pants in drafting Edmunds in the 1st round to say that is true.
              I assure you it's definitely open if they move Edmunds to the Mark Barron role.






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              • whatever
                Legend
                • Sep 2019
                • 5795

                #8
                Originally posted by steelerkeylargo
                While I agree that the Steelers should not be drafting to "win now" (nor do I think Colbert does), to say there isn't a spot on the D that is open to competition would be false. NT, ILB and SS are definitely open to competition.
                Who do you think can step in and win those spots where we are drafting?

                I just checked. Williams only played 37% of the snaps last year, so I agree that could be a spot. Of course the reason was because Barron was there taking those snaps.
                Last edited by whatever; 04-23-2020, 02:08 PM.
                How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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                • steelerkeylargo
                  Hall of Famer
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 2507

                  #9
                  Originally posted by whatever
                  Who do you think can step in and win those spots where we are drafting?
                  Posting shortly. However getting guys who can beat out Dan McCullers an VW are certainly there.






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                  • Ernie
                    Legend
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 8470

                    #10
                    honestly... id like to see Mark Barron step back into Mark Barron's 2019 role at a reduced salary. He wasnt near as bad as some folks claim... Anyone know if hes been signed by another team yet?

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                    • whatever
                      Legend
                      • Sep 2019
                      • 5795

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Ernie
                      honestly... id like to see Mark Barron step back into Mark Barron's 2019 role at a reduced salary. He wasnt near as bad as some folks claim... Anyone know if hes been signed by another team yet?
                      Agreed.
                      Makes me think ilb is a high priority.
                      How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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                      • Ernie
                        Legend
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 8470

                        #12
                        Originally posted by whatever
                        Agreed.
                        Makes me think ilb is a high priority.
                        If its not it definitely should be...and i really like U. Gilbert

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                        • whatever
                          Legend
                          • Sep 2019
                          • 5795

                          #13
                          Originally posted by steelerkeylargo
                          Posting shortly. However getting guys who can beat out Dan McCullers an VW are certainly there.
                          I think Wormley was signed to be the starter, not McCullers.
                          How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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                          • Ernie
                            Legend
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 8470

                            #14
                            Originally posted by whatever
                            I think Wormley was signed to be the starter, not McCullers.
                            Ill be surprised if McCullers isnt the odd man out this year. I. Buggs is younger and has a higher ceiling

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                            • Disco1981
                              Pro Bowler
                              • Apr 2017
                              • 1635

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Ernie
                              Ill be surprised if McCullers isnt the odd man out this year. I. Buggs is younger and has a higher ceiling
                              I say that every year and Walaah...There he is

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