Casey Hampton In Coverage

[flippy]

Ever see Casey drop in coverage more during his career?

What was going on, we dropped him into a short zone several different times.

Why?

He also looks slower than he has in the past. I've seen him run quick to the sideline. Yesterday he was lumbering.

[mr.pittsburgh]

Re: Casey Hampton In Coverage

Ever see Casey drop in coverage more during his career?

What was going on, we dropped him into a short zone several different times.

Why?

He also looks slower than he has in the past. I've seen him run quick to the sideline. Yesterday he was lumbering.

Actually, Casey looked good in coverage yesterday. His coverage on TC's screen was the cause of a sack. He also had a ton of good hustle plays. I thought he looked really good, and I am usually very critical of him.

[phillyesq]

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Watching Casey in coverage is hilarious. I don't think that it's something that they should do with him very often, but I like that it gives opposing offenses something else to consider when trying to determine who is rushing.

[agdci981]

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Well, he doesn't seem to get a very good push up front any more so might as well let him drop back once in awhile.

[flippy]

Re: Casey Hampton In Coverage

Well, he doesn't seem to get a very good push up front any more so might as well let him drop back once in awhile.

You think he's done?

I'm kinda on the fence on this one. But in general I think his play's dropped off big time.

[SidSmythe]

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I bet coaches tell him..."If you don't beat your man off the line, don't waste ur time going after the QB." Just spy on the back and take away any cutbacks out in the flats.

[SuperSize]

Re: Casey Hampton In Coverage

Ever see Casey drop in coverage more during his career?

What was going on, we dropped him into a short zone several different times.

Why?

He also looks slower than he has in the past. I've seen him run quick to the sideline. Yesterday he was lumbering.

Man, when I see any shot of Hampton & that giant belly, my lower back starts to hurt. Could you imagine toting that bad boy around? Sometimes I'm surprised he can walk, let alone run.


Pete

[steelblood]

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He did not look good. He ran the right way, but he has no chance to tackle the back unless the back makes a mistake. We need to find his replacement. He isn't cooked yet, but he's close.

On the fourth and short stop by Harrison, Casey spent a lot of energy celebrating, but he lost his match and was actually pushed back. That was an easy conversion if not for HArrison. Casey need to start pushing the center back more on running plays or Hoke needs to be in there more.

[papillon]

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Well, he doesn't seem to get a very good push up front any more so might as well let him drop back once in awhile.

I like having him in the middle though to make the quarterback's escape or ability to step up in the pocket more difficult. He doesn't need to sack the quarterback, although, it's sweet when he gets one. He reminds me of Ernie Holmes, just hangs out around the LOS and waits for backs and quarterbacks.

Pappy

[feltdizz]

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He did not look good. He ran the right way, but he has no chance to tackle the back unless the back makes a mistake. We need to find his replacement. He isn't cooked yet, but he's close.

On the fourth and short stop by Harrison, Casey spent a lot of energy celebrating, but he lost his match and was actually pushed back. That was an easy conversion if not for HArrison. Casey need to start pushing the center back more on running plays or Hoke needs to be in there more.

What are you talking about, Hampton took on 2 guys on that play!!! His job is to stuff the middle.. and the middle was stuffed.

also... I bet you Romo didn't know that was Casey underneath in coverage or he would have thrown it. The point of Casey dropping off is glimpse of an opposing player underneath makes a QB hesitate.. a QB doesn't have time to see it's the fat boy out there.. he just sees a jersey and moves to the next checkdown.

[papillon]

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He did not look good. He ran the right way, but he has no chance to tackle the back unless the back makes a mistake. We need to find his replacement. He isn't cooked yet, but he's close.

On the fourth and short stop by Harrison, Casey spent a lot of energy celebrating, but he lost his match and was actually pushed back. That was an easy conversion if not for HArrison. Casey need to start pushing the center back more on running plays or Hoke needs to be in there more.

What are you talking about, Hampton took on 2 guys on that play!!! His job is to stuff the middle.. and the middle was stuffed.

Personally, I thought he lost the battle as well. It seemed he was pushed back. Had it not been for Harrison getting underneath his blocker I believe they would have converted.

Pappy

[Jigawatts]

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At this point I think Hoke looks just as good, if not better than Hampton. Maybe they
should rotate more?

[steelblood]

Re: Casey Hampton In Coverage

He did not look good. He ran the right way, but he has no chance to tackle the back unless the back makes a mistake. We need to find his replacement. He isn't cooked yet, but he's close.

On the fourth and short stop by Harrison, Casey spent a lot of energy celebrating, but he lost his match and was actually pushed back. That was an easy conversion if not for HArrison. Casey need to start pushing the center back more on running plays or Hoke needs to be in there more.

What are you talking about, Hampton took on 2 guys on that play!!! His job is to stuff the middle.. and the middle was stuffed.

also... I bet you Romo didn't know that was Casey underneath in coverage or he would have thrown it. The point of Casey dropping off is glimpse of an opposing player underneath makes a QB hesitate.. a QB doesn't have time to see it's the fat boy out there.. he just sees a jersey and moves to the next checkdown.

1.You are confusing his role in the base set with his role in short yardage. His job in a standard 3-4 set is to occupy two blockers. His job is different in short yardage with 4 or 5 defensive lineman at the LOS. His first priority is to get a good jump on the snap and push the center back (in case the QB sneaks). His second priority is to push linemen back and stuff the runner. Casey did neither. He was LATE off the ball and the Cowboys line got a enough push for Choice to run up behind them and easily get the first down. James Harrison saved us on that one.

2.Hampton showing coverage only works as long as the QB doesn't have time to recognize that the player dropping into coverage is 360 lbs and among the slowest in the league. You may not want to believe this, but our pass rush is not good enough to keep all QBs from recognizing this. Also, if the back races to the flat or runs a swing route, Hampton has no shot. Also, running Aaron Smith out there is a problem (this is where we miss keisel). Good coordinators will exploit this if we continue to do it with such regularitly.

[SidSmythe]

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He did not look good. He ran the right way, but he has no chance to tackle the back unless the back makes a mistake. We need to find his replacement. He isn't cooked yet, but he's close.

On the fourth and short stop by Harrison, Casey spent a lot of energy celebrating, but he lost his match and was actually pushed back. That was an easy conversion if not for HArrison. Casey need to start pushing the center back more on running plays or Hoke needs to be in there more.

i noticed that too ... he isn't holding his ground like the good old days. I think he's on the decline.

[feltdizz]

Re: Casey Hampton In Coverage

He did not look good. He ran the right way, but he has no chance to tackle the back unless the back makes a mistake. We need to find his replacement. He isn't cooked yet, but he's close.

On the fourth and short stop by Harrison, Casey spent a lot of energy celebrating, but he lost his match and was actually pushed back. That was an easy conversion if not for HArrison. Casey need to start pushing the center back more on running plays or Hoke needs to be in there more.

What are you talking about, Hampton took on 2 guys on that play!!! His job is to stuff the middle.. and the middle was stuffed.

also... I bet you Romo didn't know that was Casey underneath in coverage or he would have thrown it. The point of Casey dropping off is glimpse of an opposing player underneath makes a QB hesitate.. a QB doesn't have time to see it's the fat boy out there.. he just sees a jersey and moves to the next checkdown.

1.You are confusing his role in the base set with his role in short yardage. His job in a standard 3-4 set is to occupy two blockers. His job is different in short yardage with 4 or 5 defensive lineman at the LOS. His first priority is to get a good jump on the snap and push the center back (in case the QB sneaks). His second priority is to push linemen back and stuff the runner. Casey did neither. He was LATE off the ball and the Cowboys line got a enough push for Choice to run up behind them and easily get the first down. James Harrison saved us on that one.

2.Hampton showing coverage only works as long as the QB doesn't have time to recognize that the player dropping into coverage is 360 lbs and among the slowest in the league. You may not want to believe this, but our pass rush is not good enough to keep all QBs from recognizing this. Also, if the back races to the flat or runs a swing route, Hampton has no shot. Also, running Aaron Smith out there is a problem (this is where we miss keisel). Good coordinators will exploit this if we continue to do it with such regularitly.

1. Casey did his job on the 4th and 1... Why do you guys expect Casey or whatever player is discussed... will make the play on EVERY critical play that they have. You cannot look at one 4th down conversion our D stopped and say Hampton is the weak link...

he held up 2 blockers and the OL had no push.

2. You are right... and that is why Hampton drops in coverage 5 times a year...
it isn't something we will do a lot of but it is just another wrinkle that confuses QB's.

We saw it twice last game and neither times did Romo catch on.. he had 3 INT's..
you have to understand this is chess... usually it is Aaron Smith or the other DE dropping off.. we switched it up this game...

I will give up on Hampton when we don't have the #1 D... also I find the Hampton is done talk hilarious when you look at the RB's who have had big gains.. most come when we are in the nickel and Hampton is on the sideline.

Hampton has always been fat and he is still effective...