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  • whisper
    Legend
    • Mar 2020
    • 9423

    #16
    Originally posted by Steel Maniac
    I'm thinking we can get at least the 5th round pick we traded to the Ravens back from someone for McDonald.
    Nothing wrong with having 2 TEs who can play (plus Vance is hurt a lot).

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    • Steel Maniac
      Banned
      • Apr 2017
      • 19472

      #17
      Originally posted by whisper
      Nothing wrong with having 2 TEs who can play (plus Vance is hurt a lot).
      Vannett a better blocker then both of those guys. So I don't see him going anywhere. And it ain't Ebron; we just gave him a nice big contract. So Vance the odd man out the way I see it. Plus Gentry gonna get an opportunity as well.

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      • Sugar
        Hall of Famer
        • Oct 2008
        • 3700

        #18
        Remember, we have some new blood in the room with respect to calling the Offense. Let's not try to plug these players into last years paradigm. The Offense could look very different not only from last years, but even well before Ben got hurt.

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        • Oviedo
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 23824

          #19
          Originally posted by Steel Maniac
          Vance is expendable now. He could be traded and we could pick up an additional draft pick possibly. If not, we've got some depth. Which is something a lot of posters have been crying about at TE.
          I disagree about Vance being expendable. McDonald and Ebron are two completely different types of TEs. They are really complimentary and not redundant.
          "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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          • Oviedo
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 23824

            #20
            Originally posted by Sugar
            Remember, we have some new blood in the room with respect to calling the Offense. Let's not try to plug these players into last years paradigm. The Offense could look very different not only from last years, but even well before Ben got hurt.
            I've mentioned this before. The Matt Canada factor may have more influence than we know right now.
            "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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            • feltdizz
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 27532

              #21
              Originally posted by whatever
              He wasn't better last year then Vance was in 2018 so he must suck.
              Definitely not an upgrade.
              Lmao.. you really have a hard time accepting reality.

              He was better in 2018 than Vance was in 2018 with Ben.

              and better in 2019 with Brissett than Vance was with our backups.

              13 TD’s in 2018.

              Top 13 dude!!!
              Steelers 27
              Rats 16

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              • feltdizz
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 27532

                #22
                Originally posted by Oviedo
                I disagree about Vance being expendable. McDonald and Ebron are two completely different types of TEs. They are really complimentary and not redundant.
                Ebron is more of a split end right?

                Still wonder if Vance is expendable now or are we just accepting he is more of a blocking TE?
                Steelers 27
                Rats 16

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                • Iron City Inc.
                  Hall of Famer
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 3237

                  #23
                  Originally posted by whatever
                  He wasn't better last year then Vance was in 2018 so he must suck.
                  Definitely not an upgrade.
                  Here is how I look at this. Vance and Gentry were both around in 19 so even if Gentry improves lets say those 2 are a push and cancel each other out. Is Ebron a better player than Vannett?
                  Now they are different in that Vannett is more blocker and Ebron more the pass catcher however I would find it hard to believe Ebron is not an upgrade. Ebron imho is an upgrade. So did we get better ? Did we upgrade imho yes, yes we did. Now Ebron isn't Ertz so it's not a great move but a good move yeah I would say that.

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                  • Ernie
                    Legend
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 8470

                    #24
                    given our cap situation i commend colbert for the moves weve made...the creativity to free up some money...and for the guys weve brought in (seem to be steeler types that address positions of need).

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                    • whatever
                      Legend
                      • Sep 2019
                      • 5795

                      #25
                      Originally posted by feltdizz
                      Lmao.. you really have a hard time accepting reality.

                      He was better in 2018 than Vance was in 2018 with Ben.

                      and better in 2019 with Brissett than Vance was with our backups.

                      13 TD’s in 2018.

                      Top 13 dude!!!
                      Lol....you make me laugh at you.
                      31 rbs were better than Bell last year but you say he is top 3, should get paid 15+, didn't get used right, wrong coaches, etc etc etc.
                      But now you want to use stats to say Ebron we better than Vance last year....
                      You mean the year without a starting QB?
                      I'm almost ready to quit. You've gotten too easy.
                      How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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                      • Buzz
                        Legend
                        • Dec 2017
                        • 8379

                        #26
                        Never thought we'd go for Ebron. Adds a valuable weapon for our passing game.

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                        • steeler_george
                          Hall of Famer
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 3417

                          #27
                          My thoughts...WOW I wasn't expecting this.

                          Given some time to think about it, it makes a whole lot of sense. Where to begin, my mind is exploding now!

                          1) Fits the need. ( We are officially deep, now Vance can be a #2 TE! )
                          2) We played a lot of 2 TE sets, back with JJ ( 50% snaps) and McDonald ( 51%). It seems like we might be going forward with a flex TE in the O, or maybe 3 TE sets.
                          3) Adds a TD maker, something that we sorely missed after AB left.
                          4) Adds more recievers. ( He plays as a big receiver, rather than a classic TE)
                          5) Avoids us reaching for TE and expcting them to play right away. TE takes time to develope in NFL compared to college. Like most drafts we cover that need so we don't reach, but we end up drafting that position to slowly bring on slowly. I am not counting out us taking a TE in the draft, but if we do, count on that player to play key role in 2021.
                          6) Insurance if Vance is hurt.
                          7) Don't forget the roosters this year is 55, so maybe they go with 4 TEs ( Vannette might be back)

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                          • SteelBucks
                            Legend
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 8075

                            #28
                            If anything, Ebron should help in the red zone. A certain poster won’t like the pickup but I applaud Colbert.

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                            • Rara
                              Pro Bowler
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 1305

                              #29
                              Ebron!!!! Wish it were a longer contract like 3 or 4 years..but can't complain because he's an upgrade
                              2022 NFL Mock Draft
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                              1. Malik Willis, QB; Liberty
                              2. Daniel Faalele, OT; Minnesota
                              3. Dante Stills, DT; West Virginia
                              7. Riley Moss, CB; Iowa

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                              • feltdizz
                                Legend
                                • May 2008
                                • 27532

                                #30
                                Originally posted by whatever
                                Lol....you make me laugh at you.
                                31 rbs were better than Bell last year but you say he is top 3, should get paid 15+, didn't get used right, wrong coaches, etc etc etc.
                                But now you want to use stats to say Ebron we better than Vance last year....
                                You mean the year without a starting QB?
                                I'm almost ready to quit. You've gotten too easy.
                                Once again you bring up Bell in a post about TE’s...

                                I wonder why?

                                I said Ebron was better than Vance BOTH YEARS. You are the one trying to flip years because Ebron had 13 TD’s in 2018.

                                He’s a Steeler now. It’s an upgrade.
                                Last edited by feltdizz; 03-20-2020, 07:15 PM.
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