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  • SidSmythe
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    • Sep 2008
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    Tomlin Yesterday = Great Decision Making

    OK, last year going for the 2 point conversion put a bad taste in my mouth all off season.
    BUT i always reminded myself that TOMLIN was a rookie coach and he can still prove he can learn from his mistakes. Time will still tell.

    YESTERDAY I loved his faith in this defense

    First by going for it on 4th and Goal. Of course he didn't expect Colon to slip on the play. IF Colon doesn't slip. Russell gets the TD.

    Second, he CALLED A TIMEOUT after 1st down right before Townshend's INT. He believed that the defense wasn't going to allow a score. I honestly use to get so mad at Cowher (I loved Cowher by the way) b/c he probably would have waited to see what happened after 2nd down before calling a Timeout.

    It's the "Little Things" like this that impress me.
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  • snarky
    Pro Bowler
    • Sep 2008
    • 1198

    #2
    Re: Tomlin Yesterday = Great Decision Making

    Personally, I did not like the choice to go for it on fourth down. Earlier in the game I understand the mentality of going for it. But given the game situation I thought taking the three would have been the better choice (even though it would have sucked to get that close and only get three).

    The early time-out was awesome. He played to his strength (the defense) and put pressure on the cowboys to convert the first down. A lot of coaches are afraid to lose at the end of the game rather than playing to win. Sometimes being conservative is the right thing to do. But in a tie ball game I really don't like biding time and just hoping for OT.
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    • flippy
      Legend
      • Dec 2008
      • 17088

      #3
      Re: Tomlin Yesterday = Great Decision Making

      Originally posted by SidSmythe
      OK, last year going for the 2 point conversion put a bad taste in my mouth all off season.
      BUT i always reminded myself that TOMLIN was a rookie coach and he can still prove he can learn from his mistakes. Time will still tell.

      YESTERDAY I loved his faith in this defense

      First by going for it on 4th and Goal. Of course he didn't expect Colon to slip on the play. IF Colon doesn't slip. Russell gets the TD.

      Second, he CALLED A TIMEOUT after 1st down right before Townshend's INT. He believed that the defense wasn't going to allow a score. I honestly use to get so mad at Cowher (I loved Cowher by the way) b/c he probably would have waited to see what happened after 2nd down before calling a Timeout.

      It's the "Little Things" like this that impress me.
      Keep Fightin' Coach T

      I like the play calling that sends the message that he trusts his players.

      If we didn't win, we'd hear a lot of people questioning these decisions.

      I prefer him being aggressive.

      Cowher used to be aggressive early in his career.

      The he got old and set in his ways.

      Let's hope Mr T keeps the young and agressive attitude for many years to come.
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      • feltdizz
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        • May 2008
        • 27532

        #4
        Re: Tomlin Yesterday = Great Decision Making

        Originally posted by snarky
        Personally, I did not like the choice to go for it on fourth down. Earlier in the game I understand the mentality of going for it. But given the game situation I thought taking the three would have been the better choice (even though it would have sucked to get that close and only get three).

        The early time-out was awesome. He played to his strength (the defense) and put pressure on the cowboys to convert the first down. A lot of coaches are afraid to lose at the end of the game rather than playing to win. Sometimes being conservative is the right thing to do. But in a tie ball game I really don't like biding time and just hoping for OT.
        With our D you go for it.. it wasn't like our O was marching down the field all day. Great call IMO.. I go for it 75% of the time with our D... just stop calling the same running play.. it doesn't work.
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        • GreggyDigital
          Backup
          • Oct 2008
          • 116

          #5
          Re: Tomlin Yesterday = Great Decision Making

          Originally posted by snarky
          Personally, I did not like the choice to go for it on fourth down. Earlier in the game I understand the mentality of going for it. But given the game situation I thought taking the three would have been the better choice (even though it would have sucked to get that close and only get three).

          The early time-out was awesome. He played to his strength (the defense) and put pressure on the cowboys to convert the first down. A lot of coaches are afraid to lose at the end of the game rather than playing to win. Sometimes being conservative is the right thing to do. But in a tie ball game I really don't like biding time and just hoping for OT.
          I loved the call.

          We hadn't been down there all game. Why not take a chance when you got it? Our D was playing lights out so you had to figure we'd get the ball back in good field position to at least get a FG. Which, of course, ultimatly happened.
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          • Ezekiel 25:17

            #6
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            I didn't mind the decision to go for it as much as the fact that a playaction mcall is usually set up by defensive mrespect for the ball. Our running game did do anything yesterday to warrant a scintilla of fear in the D, which allowed them to play the run soft and stuff the play.

            Oh well, we son, so screw it.

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            • pfelix73
              Hall of Famer
              • Aug 2008
              • 3458

              #7
              Re: Tomlin Yesterday = Great Decision Making

              I thought it was a poor decision to go for it at that point. You kick the FG to get to within 1 score.

              It's funny how some look at it as a good one and others look at it as a bad one. But I am chalking it down as a bad decision in my book..... Just as bad as the 2 pt. play last year.
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              • snarky
                Pro Bowler
                • Sep 2008
                • 1198

                #8
                Re: Tomlin Yesterday = Great Decision Making

                feltdizz,

                I agree -- the strength of our D provides a strong argument for going for it in that situation most of the time. But my thinking was that if it stays a two score game that takes some of the pressure off Romo to make first downs etc.

                Obviously our D is able to get turnovers but we need the opposing offense to be engaged. If they turtle up we are going to have a hard time getting the TOs. Yes the D would be likely to get a stop should the O fail to punch it in. But then you are still ten down and, as you say, it wasn't like the O was marching up and down the field.

                So I guess I see it a bit differently, but I thought the FG would have forced the hand of the Cowboys a little bit. But I do understand the call to go for it. I don't think it was a bad call, just not one that I personally liked.
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                • Mel Blount's G
                  Pro Bowler
                  • May 2008
                  • 1056

                  #9
                  Re: Tomlin Yesterday = Great Decision Making

                  They would have had to kick a fg into the wind so I'm guessing they were happy to run out the clock and go to ot. So yeah, good call to call t.o. and make them play. Also was a good call to defer on the opening coin toss - in hindsight - to have the wwind at the end of the game
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                  • Djfan
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                    • May 2008
                    • 5184

                    #10
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                    I trust the D, but not the O. That's why I didn't want him to go for it on 4th.
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                    • SteelerOfDeVille
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                      • May 2008
                      • 9069

                      #11
                      Re: Tomlin Yesterday = Great Decision Making

                      Originally posted by SidSmythe
                      Second, he CALLED A TIMEOUT after 1st down right before Townshend's INT. He believed that the defense wasn't going to allow a score. I honestly use to get so mad at Cowher (I loved Cowher by the way) b/c he probably would have waited to see what happened after 2nd down before calling a Timeout.
                      If Dallas goes downfield and scores, partly benefitting from this TO call, you completely change your tone on this one.
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                      • Mel Blount's G
                        Pro Bowler
                        • May 2008
                        • 1056

                        #12
                        Re: Tomlin Yesterday = Great Decision Making

                        Originally posted by SteelerOfDeVille
                        Originally posted by SidSmythe
                        Second, he CALLED A TIMEOUT after 1st down right before Townshend's INT. He believed that the defense wasn't going to allow a score. I honestly use to get so mad at Cowher (I loved Cowher by the way) b/c he probably would have waited to see what happened after 2nd down before calling a Timeout.
                        If Dallas goes downfield and scores, partly benefitting from this TO call, you completely change your tone on this one.
                        True but that would have been very uncharactersitic of our D this year had Dallas done that. Why should we let them run out the clock and possibly reverse their disadvantaged field position (relative to the wind) come O.T.?
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                        • SteelerOfDeVille
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                          • May 2008
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                          #13
                          Re: Tomlin Yesterday = Great Decision Making

                          Originally posted by Mel Blount's G
                          Originally posted by SteelerOfDeVille
                          Originally posted by SidSmythe
                          Second, he CALLED A TIMEOUT after 1st down right before Townshend's INT. He believed that the defense wasn't going to allow a score. I honestly use to get so mad at Cowher (I loved Cowher by the way) b/c he probably would have waited to see what happened after 2nd down before calling a Timeout.
                          If Dallas goes downfield and scores, partly benefitting from this TO call, you completely change your tone on this one.
                          True but that would have been very uncharactersitic of our D this year had Dallas done that. Why should we let them run out the clock and possibly reverse their disadvantaged field position (relative to the wind) come O.T.?
                          they'd already had a couple of decent drives in the 2nd half... i was a bit concerned with the TO call.

                          Loved the 4th and 1, was "iffy" on the TO.
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                          • SidSmythe
                            Hall of Famer
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 4708

                            #14
                            Re: Tomlin Yesterday = Great Decision Making

                            Originally posted by Mel Blount's G
                            Originally posted by SteelerOfDeVille
                            Originally posted by SidSmythe
                            Second, he CALLED A TIMEOUT after 1st down right before Townshend's INT. He believed that the defense wasn't going to allow a score. I honestly use to get so mad at Cowher (I loved Cowher by the way) b/c he probably would have waited to see what happened after 2nd down before calling a Timeout.
                            If Dallas goes downfield and scores, partly benefitting from this TO call, you completely change your tone on this one.
                            True but that would have been very uncharactersitic of our D this year had Dallas done that. Why should we let them run out the clock and possibly reverse their disadvantaged field position (relative to the wind) come O.T.?
                            That was my #1 concern.
                            If you take the ball in O.T., u lose the wind advantage.
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                            • drprwnap
                              Backup
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 370

                              #15
                              Re: Tomlin Yesterday = Great Decision Making

                              [quote="SidSmythe"]

                              First by going for it on 4th and Goal. Of course he didn't expect Colon to slip on the play. IF Colon doesn't slip. Russell gets the TD.


                              You're kidding, right? With 12 min. left in the game that you're down by 10 points? I'm sorry, that was the WORST DECISION that I have ever seen. Especially when you have the WORST 4th DOWN OFFENSE IN THE NFL! If we would have lost the game, would you still feel the same about that decision? I know I would. Look I'm GLAD we won, but those kind of BONEHEAD decisions will bit you in the a$$ at some point. Tomlin's in-game decision making is becoming a concern for me.

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