Where is all the duck peeps

[KYPITTFAN]

Why no Duck threads? I was all in on Mason and stood up for him until he sat. Then I was hopeful but not sold on the Duck just glad for a win. Let's be fair the Duck sucked and lost that game for us. Yes, I'm no fan of some of the play calls but dang he was bad. I say play him next week against the Jets then evaluate the two QB's for the last and maybe the most important game this year. Zeez when can we put it all together. If Ben was playing with this defense we would be dangerous.

[Ernie]

Ben was also known as "Bad Ben" at various points throughout his career... yea.. Duck had a bad game... but he had tons of help.

[SidSmythe]

I really don't see DUCK getting the Steelers past the Wild Card Round - He's just limited in how well he sees the field and his arm strength is average at best - although he has great timing on some throws but those type of throws don't come often.
RUDOLPH has by far the better upside - his downturn was a 4 INT game on a short week, on the road.
DUCK'S was a 4 INT game at home on a regular week.

DUCK is a great story and I think he has a future in the NFL but if we're talking getting past the Wild Card Round I think RUDOLPH is the better option.

[Disco1981]

I really don't see DUCK getting the Steelers past the Wild Card Round - He's just limited in how well he sees the field and his arm strength is average at best - although he has great timing on some throws but those type of throws don't come often.
RUDOLPH has by far the better upside - his downturn was a 4 INT game on a short week, on the road.
DUCK'S was a 4 INT game at home on a regular week.

DUCK is a great story and I think he has a future in the NFL but if we're talking getting past the Wild Card Round I think RUDOLPH is the better option.

Agree except...Ducks arm strength is actually rated higher than Masons ( They have a velocity type system to gauge it somehow ) I read...But anyhow, It LOOKS like they both DON'T have it!

[Oviedo]

Duck is what he is. He was the right "curve ball" that gave the team and fans a jolt of excitement. However did anyone really think he was taking us to the Super Bowl? Only our defense could do that

What we saw last night was expected. The more teams got tape on the Duck the more he was going to be exposed.

Last night is over, and now just get focused on the Jets

[KYPITTFAN]

Ben is not the topic , Duck is. Ben has Superbowls and will be in the Hall of Fame. My point is people were going ballistic over Mason and was all in on Duck because he played while the team beat some bad teams. Duck's arm is awful. All 4 of the int's were floated and some where badly placed. He alone lost us that game. Not bad play calls, dropped pass's or the defense. This one is on him. He is a undrafted rookie, he should be bad. My point is not against him, it's against all the people that were on Mason and going nuts for Duck. Mason has the better chance of becoming at least a NFL backup. He has better tools he has learned a lot and will be better for it. Duck has had he 5 min and will never become NFL caliber.

Ben was also known as "Bad Ben" at various points throughout his career... yea.. Duck had a bad game... but he had tons of help.

[SteelBucks]

Duck is what he is. He was the right "curve ball" that gave the team and fans a jolt of excitement. However did anyone really think he was taking us to the Super Bowl? Only our defense could do that

What we saw last night was expected. The more teams got tape on the Duck the more he was going to be exposed.

Last night is over, and now just get focused on the Jets

Yep, move on. I’d be thrilled if the Steelers managed a playoff birth considering everything this team has been through over the last 12 months. I don’t care if they’re one and done...just get in.

[Ernie]

Ben is not the topic , Duck is. Ben has Superbowls and will be in the Hall of Fame. My point is people were going ballistic over Mason and was all in on Duck because he played while the team beat some bad teams. Duck's arm is awful. All 4 of the int's were floated and some where badly placed. He alone lost us that game. Not bad play calls, dropped pass's or the defense. This one is on him. He is a undrafted rookie, he should be bad. My point is not against him, it's against all the people that were on Mason and going nuts for Duck. Mason has the better chance of becoming at least a NFL backup. He has better tools he has learned a lot and will be better for it. Duck has had he 5 min and will never become NFL caliber.

unless he called the Wildcat play at the end of the 2nd.. ill have to disagree (he alone cost us the game)..

[KYPITTFAN]

Steelers have given us all one thing this year. They have been able to keep our attention and remain relevant to the playoff chase. It's looking more likely they wont make it in but I for one am pleased with the effort this year and the coaching staff (choke saying that). We did get to evaluate several things. Life without Ben is not good. We most likely now know we do not have his replacement. Life without AB. JuJu needs quality help on the other side. He does not draw the defense to him like AB did. We need a great slot receiver. Conner is good but can't stay on the field. Snell may be the long term answer. Watt and Dupree are a awesome pair, one without the other may look much different. We need to keep Dupree. We are stable at the kicking position once again.

[Ghost]

Duck was awful last night and may be nothing but a career backup but this team is screwed if they have to go with Rudolph as the starter. He's not good and was not showing any improvement as the season progressed. In 9 games he threw for over 250 yards (251) only once. 5 out of 9 were under 200 yards. 61.6% completion rate. 9 interceptions and 4 fumbles.

[Ernie]

Duck was awful last night and may be nothing but a career backup but this team is screwed if they have to go with Rudolph as the starter. He's not good and was not showing any improvement as the season progressed. In 9 games he threw for over 250 yards (251) only once. 5 out of 9 were under 200 yards. 61.6% completion rate. 9 interceptions and 4 fumbles.

Mason played himself out of the lineup... Duck hasnt done that yet... up until last night... Duck was efficient.. had over a 100 passer rating...
I get that folks are upset but we need to keep things in perspective

[Eich]

I didn't think that Duck was as awful as his stat line indicates. There was one really bad pick. Another was bad. But outside of that, he was trying to make something happen at the end, while under a lot of duress against a very good defense. He just really didn't have much of a supporting cast. The o-line wasn't protecting him. And we had no real threat of the run as the game wore on. That spells doom for a lot of QBs.

We lack fire power on offense. And against a good defense, it really shows.

[papillon]

I didn't think that Duck was as awful as his stat line indicates. There was one really bad pick. Another was bad. But outside of that, he was trying to make something happen at the end, while under a lot of duress against a very good defense. He just really didn't have much of a supporting cast. The o-line wasn't protecting him. And we had no real threat of the run as the game wore on. That spells doom for a lot of QBs.

We lack fire power on offense. And against a good defense, it really shows.

IMO, they were all bad picks, the final two were the worst, just thrown up and hoping for a play or PI. The Steelers final drive had the ball well into Bills territory with plenty of time on the clock and no timeouts. Duck was looking downfield for the big play rather taking a few short gains, clocking the ball to stop the clock and hopefully, get a play maker to make a play for you. He isn't the play maker I want trying to win the game. And, while he was looking for a big play, he missed JW on a crossing pattern that the Bills secondary basically ignored and threw the final pick. All 4 were ball placement INTs with a little bit of too much air under the ball thrown in for good measure. I like the kid, I would love to see him become the Steelers "Tom Brady like" replacement for Ben but i don't see it happening.

Pappy

[Eich]

And, while he was looking for a big play, he missed JW on a crossing pattern that the Bills secondary basically ignored and threw the final pick.

I think he missed him because of the pressure. A good Bills' D exposed a rookie, un-drafted QB. We just have little-to-no fire power on offense and a coordinator that doesn't seem to have any answers for how to make the best of what we do have.

I've seen a veteran Ben have a worse game than Duck did.

I'd think much differently about Duck if we had shown the ability to run the ball and protect the QB. But without those ingredients, it was a recipe for the disaster we witnessed.

[KYPITTFAN]

You have also seen Ben take the team to the Super bowl multiple times and bail them out of lost games. Compare Ben and the Duck after he has done something.

I think he missed him because of the pressure. A good Bills' D exposed a rookie, un-drafted QB. We just have little-to-no fire power on offense and a coordinator that doesn't seem to have any answers for how to make the best of what we do have.

I've seen a veteran Ben have a worse game than Duck did.

I'd think much differently about Duck if we had shown the ability to run the ball and protect the QB. But without those ingredients, it was a recipe for the disaster we witnessed.