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  • The Man of Steel
    Pro Bowler
    • Dec 2009
    • 2241

    Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
    I don't really follow college football. Why do you think he'd be an upgrade at HC?

    A very quick look at his resume doesn't seem super impressive to me (admittedly not knowing the context):
    - His NCAA regular season record is worse than Tomlin's NFL regular season record.
    - His record in bowl games is worse then Tomlin's NFL playoff record (although it's only a 4 game sample, so it probably doesn't mean all that much).

    I think it would also be interesting to see some kind of "success rate" for up an coming NCAA coaches that have moved to the NFL. I bet it's low because success rate for NFL coaches is low to begin with.

    I also think someone recently posted that success rate for new coaches in general was bad.
    Fleck has played and coached in the NFL. His resume is technically better than Tomlin’s was when he got hired.
    Obviously the standard is the standard.

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    • Oh wow
      Hall of Famer
      • Mar 2019
      • 2753

      Originally posted by The Man of Steel
      Fleck has played and coached in the NFL. His resume is technically better than Tomlin’s was when he got hired.
      I don’t think so. His college coaching career might be more impressive than Tomlin’s but Tomlin had a SB ring and a ton of admiration from the secondary that put on a show in their SB victory.

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      • Northern_Blitz
        Legend
        • Dec 2008
        • 24382

        Originally posted by The Man of Steel
        Fleck has played and coached in the NFL. His resume is technically better than Tomlin’s was when he got hired.
        That's interesting and if we were in a position where we had to hire someone, I think that's the kind of thing I think we should look for.

        But that's not the position we're in.

        Instead, it's do we want the mystery box that the odds say will be bad...or do we want to stay with one of the most successful coaches in the league.

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        • Oviedo
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 23824

          Originally posted by The Man of Steel
          P.J. Fleck
          Which is why I trust the Rooney's and discount message board opinions.

          Fleck has shown nothing to indicate he would be a successful NFL coach
          "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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          • SteelBucks
            Legend
            • Aug 2008
            • 8075

            Originally posted by Oviedo
            Which is why I trust the Rooney's and discount message board opinions.

            Fleck has shown nothing to indicate he would be a successful NFL coach
            Yep.......

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            • Oh wow
              Hall of Famer
              • Mar 2019
              • 2753

              Originally posted by Oviedo
              Which is why I trust the Rooney's and discount message board opinions.

              Fleck has shown nothing to indicate he would be a successful NFL coach
              It’s disrespectful to throw out random college coaches as a successor to Tomlin.

              I don’t think the Rooney’s would even give a phone interview to a college head coach.

              Managing millionaires who make more money than the head coach is so much harder than managing college kids.
              Last edited by Oh wow; 10-20-2019, 02:39 PM.

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              • whatever
                Legend
                • Sep 2019
                • 5795

                Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                That's interesting and if we were in a position where we had to hire someone, I think that's the kind of thing I think we should look for.

                But that's not the position we're in.

                Instead, it's do we want the mystery box that the odds say will be bad...or do we want to stay with one of the most successful coaches in the league.
                You mean, One of the most successful regular season coaches in the league.
                How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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                • Captain Lemming
                  Legend
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 16063

                  Originally posted by Disco1981
                  Oh Pretty please...

                  2nd string RB passing from your own 12, Wildcat on a 2nd and 1 for a big loss, instead of trying to power it for ONCE, for a 1st down...Leaving a TO in his pocket going into half ( God is he terrible at clock management ) Thumping his chest with his stupid sunglasses on, at the end of the game, when the game wasn't over...Not even mentioning the OT debacle...

                  Dude makes the same mistakes week after week, year after year...Steelers have been on a heavy downhill spiral the last few years...

                  Popcorn can't get out of his own way, He is a terrible Coach!

                  If Washington wants him, They can have him... PLEASE! I could drive him!

                  So true. EVERY YEAR this clown is running the wildcat adnausium….It has NEVER EVER WORKED
                  Backup runningback passes? Dude should have learned to stop that foolishness after ALL THE TIMES IT FAILED IN THE PAST.

                  He does the same things every year !!!!!
                  sigpic



                  In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                  TCFCLTC-
                  The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                  • Northern_Blitz
                    Legend
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 24382

                    Originally posted by whatever
                    You mean, One of the most successful regular season coaches in the league.
                    Nope, that's not what I mean.

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                    • Starlifter
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 5098

                      Just a random thought. Pretty interesting article after the packers game talking about Rodgers being 36 and the ‘reset’ by firing McCarthy was the right thing to do. Lots of similarities to the Steelers situation. The point is, it’s not saying Tomlin is a bad coach. But sometimes, teams DO need a reset.
                      2014 MNF EXEC CHAMPION!!!

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                      • whatever
                        Legend
                        • Sep 2019
                        • 5795

                        Originally posted by Starlifter
                        Just a random thought. Pretty interesting article after the packers game talking about Rodgers being 36 and the ‘reset’ by firing McCarthy was the right thing to do. Lots of similarities to the Steelers situation. The point is, it’s not saying Tomlin is a bad coach. But sometimes, teams DO need a reset.
                        Hiring lefluer was a mistake. They should have stuck with philbin for a decade or so.
                        How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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                        • Oh wow
                          Hall of Famer
                          • Mar 2019
                          • 2753

                          Originally posted by Starlifter
                          Just a random thought. Pretty interesting article after the packers game talking about Rodgers being 36 and the ‘reset’ by firing McCarthy was the right thing to do. Lots of similarities to the Steelers situation. The point is, it’s not saying Tomlin is a bad coach. But sometimes, teams DO need a reset.
                          If Ben totally tuned out Tomlin, refused to speak to him and lost the team I would agree.

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                          • whatever
                            Legend
                            • Sep 2019
                            • 5795

                            Originally posted by Oh wow
                            If Ben totally tuned out Tomlin, refused to speak to him and lost the team I would agree.
                            As Meatloaf sang, 2 out of 3 ain't bad.
                            How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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                            • Northern_Blitz
                              Legend
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 24382

                              Originally posted by whatever
                              As Meatloaf sang, 2 out of 3 ain't bad.
                              Which 2 do you think have happened? Can you explain when / how?

                              I don't think we've seen any of these three things (although AB certainly went crazy).

                              We'll get a better test this year though since we're getting to the point where there's not going to be much to play for.

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                              • whatever
                                Legend
                                • Sep 2019
                                • 5795

                                Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                                Which 2 do you think have happened? Can you explain when / how?

                                I don't think we've seen any of these three things (although AB certainly went crazy).

                                We'll get a better test this year though since we're getting to the point where there's not going to be much to play for.
                                1&3 and
                                No, I won't explain it. It was well documented all off season.
                                How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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