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  • NJ-STEELER
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 12563

    Originally posted by Steel Maniac
    Ben brought us back to be in position to win that game by the beginning of the 4th qtr. the defense gave bortles 17 points in the 4th qtr. the defense. Tomlin’s defense and Butlers defense.

    It is just amazing how you TTT’s make up and reimagine things to cover for Tomlin’s inadequacies.

    don't forget coach peezy going on national TV saying "everyone knows its going to come down to the patriots and us"

    no bulletin board material there for a team that already beat you. He smart

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    • NJ-STEELER
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 12563

      Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
      I thought you blocked all the name callers, must be tough to read your own posts

      Do you think losing the best player on the D after the trade deadline and replacing him with a guy off the couch maybe had something to do with the subpar D?

      And the truth is we lost twice to the Jags in 2017 mostly because of Ben.

      The Jags D owned Ben in 2017.

      They generated 7 turnovers by Ben personally in 2 games. To put that in context: On average in 2017 defenses generated 13.5 Ints and 8.5 fumbles for a total of 22 turnovers per game (or 1.4 turnovers per game). Against the Jags, Ben was responsible for 7 total turnovers, or 3.5 / game. That's three times the average number of turnovers a team generates just on Ben. That is terrible execution from a guy that will deservedly end up in the HoF.

      And his turnovers in the playoff game came early, allowing them to get a big lead. That's exactly the opposite of what we wanted to do against a team with an offense that was less than dynamic.

      Or maybe Tomlin should have run the "not interception" and "not fumble" plays more often. But, you're supposed to be able to let a HoF QB do more than manage the game. Or maybe Tomlin deserves credit for cutting Ben's number of turnovers by 60% from the regular season game to the playoff game? But really, the guy that screwed up is the guy that should own the mistakes.

      Ben did well against their D in the playoffs anytime they were up by 2 scores. But they stopped us or turned it over anytime they weren't.

      Because Ben and the team played well after a terrible start (testament to good coaching), we still had a chance to win at the end of the game. And while Ben was the biggest reason for the almost comeback, he was also the biggest reason we lost IMO.

      didn't we just see our team get 5 turnovers and a total of 3 points from them.

      Did someone forget to tell the defense to play after those turnovers?

      again, it was a blake bortles led offense that put up 10 points the week before at home vs. buffalo

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      • Oh wow
        Hall of Famer
        • Mar 2019
        • 2753

        I love how folks keep bringing up Tomlins home town or his son in Maryland as some type of incentive.

        You would think Pittsburgh was a 5 hour plane ride from DC the way people are talking.

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        • fordfixer
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 10931

          I guess it’s going to come down to, Does Tomlin want to go to Washington. Every thing else is just hot air.

          Molon labe

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          ?We're not going to apologize for winning.?
          Mike Tomlin

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          • Northern_Blitz
            Legend
            • Dec 2008
            • 24382

            Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
            didn't we just see our team get 5 turnovers and a total of 3 points from them.

            Did someone forget to tell the defense to play after those turnovers?

            again, it was a blake bortles led offense that put up 10 points the week before at home vs. buffalo
            So your argument is that turnover ratio doesn't matter?

            Because that's clearly a ridiculous argument.

            The Jags just had Ben's number that year. It also didn't help that we had to replace our best player on D with a guy off the couch because he got hurt after the trade deadline.
            Last edited by Northern_Blitz; 10-13-2019, 04:35 PM.

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            • Oh wow
              Hall of Famer
              • Mar 2019
              • 2753

              Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
              didn't we just see our team get 5 turnovers and a total of 3 points from them.

              Did someone forget to tell the defense to play after those turnovers?

              again, it was a blake bortles led offense that put up 10 points the week before at home vs. buffalo
              Wait. Are you blaming the defense for not continuing to play defense after 5 turnovers?

              or is this just another example of a fan mad at 2017 and can’t move on.

              When you produce 5 turnovers and only get 3 points it means your D is playing a lot more football than your offense. It’s not surprising to see a D get tired of the O doesn’t convert or sustain drives.

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              • Oh wow
                Hall of Famer
                • Mar 2019
                • 2753

                Originally posted by fordfixer
                I guess it’s going to come down to, Does Tomlin want to go to Washington. Every thing else is just hot air.
                Basically.

                I can’t see Tomlin moving on right now but I could definitely see him making a move in a few years after the next coach in DC fails.

                Throw a bag of money and GM power and it could be a nice way to end your career financially.

                Also, while Tomlin is relatively young 15 years as a HC is damn near an eternity. I could also see him doing a Cowher and sitting in a studio twice a week making just as much as he makes now.

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                • Northern_Blitz
                  Legend
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 24382

                  Originally posted by Oh wow
                  Basically.

                  I can’t see Tomlin moving on right now but I could definitely see him making a move in a few years after the next coach in DC fails.

                  Throw a bag of money and GM power and it could be a nice way to end your career financially.

                  Also, while Tomlin is relatively young 15 years as a HC is damn near an eternity. I could also see him doing a Cowher and sitting in a studio twice a week making just as much as he makes now.
                  My guess is that if he wants to work after coaching the Steelers, he'll be a talking head.

                  Good money, little effort, and he seems to be pretty charismatic so I bet he'd be good at it.

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                  • NJ-STEELER
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 12563

                    Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                    So your argument is that turnover ratio doesn't matter?

                    Because that's clearly a ridiculous argument.

                    The Jags just had Ben's number that year. It also didn't help that we had to replace our best player on D with a guy off the couch because he got hurt after the trade deadline.
                    it didn't matter in the 49ers game. did it? they accomplished a lot more with a lot less then what we have on defense

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                    • NJ-STEELER
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 12563

                      Originally posted by Terrapin
                      lmao. our KR team couldn't get the ball past the 10yd line against Baltimore.

                      Cincy returns the opening kick for a TD.

                      #DannySmithForever
                      c'mon now, its mot like coach peezy is in charge of that... am i right? lol

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                      • NJ-STEELER
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 12563

                        Originally posted by Oh wow
                        There was also the sack fumble returned for a TD.

                        I think, I can’t remember.. we turned the ball over so much in those Jags losses that year I can’t remember if the sack fumble was in the first game or the second.. or both.

                        Don’t forget the 4th and short where Eli was wide open for a first down and Ben tried to go to JuJu who was blanketed and maybe interfered with.. smh.
                        quoted for the hypocrite dizz who "can't move on"

                        lol

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                        • pittpete
                          Legend
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 6825

                          Following the disastrous home playoff loss to the Jags, the Tomlin led Steelers are 10-10-1 since.
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                          • Northern_Blitz
                            Legend
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 24382

                            Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                            it didn't matter in the 49ers game. did it? they accomplished a lot more with a lot less then what we have on defense
                            I think you should probably look at the talent they have in their from 7.

                            That's actual talent, not just pedigree.

                            You might also want to see how many teams have lost when they were plus three.

                            Again, you can come to crappy conclusions when you assume small sample sizes accurately reflect statistical likelihood

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                            • Eddie Spaghetti
                              Hall of Famer
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 4123

                              Originally posted by pittpete
                              Following the disastrous home playoff loss to the Jags, the Tomlin led Steelers are 10-10-1 since.
                              that counts as a success around here

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                              • Terrapin
                                Pro Bowler
                                • Sep 2017
                                • 2085

                                Originally posted by pittpete
                                Following the disastrous home playoff loss to the Jags, the Tomlin led Steelers are 10-10-1 since.
                                Yeah, in other words, we aren't below .500. That's really all that matters. Well that and cool quotes

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