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  • steelz09
    Administrator
    • Jan 2008
    • 4675

    #31
    Completely agree. We tend to run a 3-4 concept but utilize our players in a way that doesn't fit the 3-4.

    It definitely leaves our LB exposed and it creates gaping holes for the RB and QBs to take off.

    At a minimum, they better make and adjustment week-to-week based on the opposition. Especially, this week with the Ravens running game and Lamar Jackson. We need to keep him in the pocket and not leave the middle of the field wide open or it'll be a LONG day.
    Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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    • RuthlessBurgher
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 33208

      #32
      Facing Jackson, the best strategy might not be to try to sack him 8 times like you did with Andy Dalton.

      Because if you whiff on a sack, or if an OLB's attempt at a speed rush runs himself out of a play and therefore loses his containment responsibility, then Lamar is capable of taking off for a huge gain.

      In the grand scheme of things, it might be better to get some pressure on him and force him to make poor throws instead.
      Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

      Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

      We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

      We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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      • Iron City Inc.
        Hall of Famer
        • Jun 2013
        • 3237

        #33
        We're better at man under cover 1. Problem with that against real good running qb's you turn your back in coverage. There is the risk. However you can box a defender for us either Edmunds or Bush n spy him on Jackson but that means our man across the board is exposed if the rush doesn't get there its trouble. Game inside the game.

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        • flippy
          Legend
          • Dec 2008
          • 17088

          #34
          Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
          Facing Jackson, the best strategy might not be to try to sack him 8 times like you did with Andy Dalton.

          Because if you whiff on a sack, or if an OLB's attempt at a speed rush runs himself out of a play and therefore loses his containment responsibility, then Lamar is capable of taking off for a huge gain.

          In the grand scheme of things, it might be better to get some pressure on him and force him to make poor throws instead.
          I think you rush 3 and mix coverages and make Jackson beat you playing like Tom Brady.
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          • Northern_Blitz
            Legend
            • Dec 2008
            • 24373

            #35
            Originally posted by steelz09
            Completely agree. We tend to run a 3-4 concept but utilize our players in a way that doesn't fit the 3-4.

            It definitely leaves our LB exposed and it creates gaping holes for the RB and QBs to take off.

            At a minimum, they better make and adjustment week-to-week based on the opposition. Especially, this week with the Ravens running game and Lamar Jackson. We need to keep him in the pocket and not leave the middle of the field wide open or it'll be a LONG day.
            I think we run much less 3-4 than a lot of people think.

            ...checks internet...
            Much is made across the NFL about the proliferation of the passing offense and how defenses have been forced to adjust. The notion of "base" defense has become something of a misnomer when describing how most NFL defenses operate. But where do the Pittsburgh Steelers fall…


            In 2018, we ran:
            Dime: 36% [3rd most in the league]
            Nickel: 33% [11 teams across the league were in nickle 70% of the time]
            3-4: 30%

            3-4 was our 3rd most common formation in 2018 (although all three were pretty even).

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            • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 10281

              #36
              Originally posted by Iron City Inc.
              We're better at man under cover 1. Problem with that against real good running qb's you turn your back in coverage. There is the risk. However you can box a defender for us either Edmunds or Bush n spy him on Jackson but that means our man across the board is exposed if the rush doesn't get there its trouble. Game inside the game.
              Obviously the goal with Jackson is that if he is going to beat you, make him do it with his arm. I think with any pressure you push upfield while not abandoning the edges. I think that Bush is your spy. Therefore he stays in the middle of the field while LJ is in the pocket, thus also being there to cover the middle on crossing routes. I think that having Williams available helps with the running game.
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              • Oviedo
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 23824

                #37
                Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher

                In the grand scheme of things, it might be better to get some pressure on him and force him to make poor throws instead.
                Agree 100%
                "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                • Steel Maniac
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2017
                  • 19472

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Iron City Inc.
                  We're better at man under cover 1. Problem with that against real good running qb's you turn your back in coverage. There is the risk. However you can box a defender for us either Edmunds or Bush n spy him on Jackson but that means our man across the board is exposed if the rush doesn't get there its trouble. Game inside the game.
                  Yeah but if they don't wrap up and tackle, does it matter? I"m seeing a whole lot of missed tackles.

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                  • hawaiiansteel
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 35649

                    #39
                    Originally posted by whatever
                    Seems like the defense was flying around. Barron, Dupree and Hilton especially.
                    Dupree was the only Steeler to get above 90% on the PFF rankings last week...

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