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  • Northern_Blitz
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    • Dec 2008
    • 24373

    #76
    I think it means they think Ben will come back and play till the end of his contract.

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    • The Man of Steel
      Pro Bowler
      • Dec 2009
      • 2236

      #77
      Fitzpatrick is only 22 so I kind of feel like we’re just getting next year’s first round draft pick right now.
      Obviously the standard is the standard.

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      • SteelBucks
        Legend
        • Aug 2008
        • 8075

        #78
        Originally posted by The Man of Steel
        Fitzpatrick is only 22 so I kind of feel like we’re just getting next year’s first round draft pick right now.
        Exactly. We’re giving up a potential top 10 pick for a player that I would have loved to select in the top 10. We’ve been searching for a good safety...we just found one.

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        • SteelBucks
          Legend
          • Aug 2008
          • 8075

          #79
          Originally posted by The Man of Steel
          Fitzpatrick is only 22 so I kind of feel like we’re just getting next year’s first round draft pick right now.
          Exactly. We’re giving up a potential top 10 pick for a player that I would have loved to select in the top 10. We’ve been searching for a good safety...we just found one.

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          • Northern_Blitz
            Legend
            • Dec 2008
            • 24373

            #80
            Was early when I read this and I thought it meant we traded our first for R. Fitz, which would have been obviously catastrophic

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            • Ernie
              Legend
              • Aug 2013
              • 8470

              #81
              Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
              Was early when I read this and I thought it meant we traded our first for R. Fitz, which would have been obviously catastrophic
              i thought the same thing.. lol

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              • SidSmythe
                Hall of Famer
                • Sep 2008
                • 4708

                #82
                Oh My Goodness People!!
                No, you're not getting STAR players "on the cheap" here.
                He was the 11th overall pick - worthy of any position the Steelers will be drafting next year!!
                Excellent - Steelers get a proven player for a potential player in the future!
                Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
                Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
                Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...!!!

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                • Oviedo
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 23824

                  #83
                  Originally posted by SidSmythe
                  Oh My Goodness People!!
                  No, you're not getting STAR players "on the cheap" here.
                  He was the 11th overall pick - worthy of any position the Steelers will be drafting next year!!
                  Excellent - Steelers get a proven player for a potential player in the future!
                  +1...It is unbelieveable how some just want to complain. As stated he was the #11 player from last year's draft. We got the #10 from this year's. But yet some want to project a pick that they have no idea who it could be and complain. Just too many cry babies.
                  "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                  • flippy
                    Legend
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 17088

                    #84
                    Vince Williams loves the trade. It'll spare him the weekly embarrassment of having to cover the opposing team's #1 WR 1 on 1.

                    Bush and Barron like it too now that we'll have someone to cover RBs and TEs that they can't keep up with.
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                    • Oviedo
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 23824

                      #85
                      Originally posted by flippy
                      I can't even explain how much I love this trade.

                      I think we now have a perennial All Pro on D. A guy that teams will have to think about and changes everything we can do on D.

                      Even if we were to tank, this kid is a top 10 pick in just about any draft class. I remember someone having him as the best safety in the 2018 class and someone else having him rated the top CB in the class. The kid has versatility and is a play maker. He kinda reminds me of the Honey Badger in college with size and character.

                      I get forced to watch a lot of Alabama and can tell you this kid has just got "it". He's got the clutch gene and seems to come up big in big games.

                      If Bush and Edmunds reach their full potential and Shazier comes back in another year, our D could be insanely talented in short order. This is a huge get!!!!
                      I'm 100% with you. We now have to potential perenial Pro Bowl players in Fitzpatrick and Bush. Add in Watt andwe have some real talent on defense. Isn't that what the majority of this board has been bitching and whing about for the past 5 years?

                      Where we disagree is with Shazier. He is never playing football again. The legal and liability, plus probably moral, issues for the Steelers will prevent that from happening
                      "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                      • Ernie
                        Legend
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 8470

                        #86
                        yea... i hate to admit but shazier isnt coming back. the last few times ive seen him move around... hes still got a "Hitch in his giddy up" lol

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                        • SidSmythe
                          Hall of Famer
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 4708

                          #87
                          Lets NOT forget that Mike Hilton and Sean Davis are gone next year - I really don't see the Steelers picking in the Top 8 next year so I'm happy!
                          Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
                          Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
                          Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...!!!

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                          • Ghost
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 6338

                            #88
                            If Fitzpatrick works out, the Steelers should just plan to trade their #1 every 5 to 7 years to get a DB. Let other teams draft our secondary so we avoid years such as 2016 when they went with Burns and Davis as the first 2. Problem solved...
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                            • Oh wow
                              Hall of Famer
                              • Mar 2019
                              • 2753

                              #89
                              Originally posted by Mr.wizard
                              I dont think its desperation, i think it says they believe Rudolph is the real deal and this year is not dead. Rudolph did throw 2 Td's against that Hawks defense and if the defense could of made a stop down the stretch we win that game.
                              We moved up to get Mason and we traded Dobbs. Mason looked better than any other QB who has relieved Ben except for Batch.... but Mason throws a much better ball.

                              Other players sound excited for Mason too.

                              Vance said there are no surprises with Mason.

                              DeCastro said there won’t be any drama. I wonder what that means? LOL

                              I had reservations about crowning Mason too early but he came in and looked like a leader.

                              I’m excited.
                              Last edited by Oh wow; 09-17-2019, 08:31 AM.

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                              • Oh wow
                                Hall of Famer
                                • Mar 2019
                                • 2753

                                #90
                                Originally posted by Ghost
                                If Fitzpatrick works out, the Steelers should just plan to trade their #1 every 5 to 7 years to get a DB. Let other teams draft our secondary so we avoid years such as 2016 when they went with Burns and Davis as the first 2. Problem solved...
                                I’ve said in the past we need to acquire proven DB’s in FA. Let other teams gamble on them early in the draft.

                                I know draft gurus always think a first round pick will be an automatic superstar but it’s a crap shoot.

                                With our history of drafting and developing DB’s.. hell, with everyone’s history of drafting and developing DB’s it’s probably best to poach proven players at this position.

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