BREAKING----> Lawsuit Accuses Antonio Brown of Rape

[Eich]

It looks like the accusations can't be proved criminally. Why she decided to wait is beyond anyone. Looks like a money grab to me.

AB should probably just pay her to go away. The American legal system is broken.

There's really no way to know for sure if AB ever forced himself on her, with her screaming no unless there is some audio or video evidence. It does feel like a money grab, but who knows. Given what I've seen from AB, it wouldn't surprise me if he went too far at some point.

In any case, AB has shown a severely poor pattern of behavior. IMO, the league should take some kind of action against him, even without the assault accusation. Its' ridiculous to me, that he can get away with threatining the GM of the Raiders and posting a recorded conversation and a fine letter on social media, without any league reprimand. Maybe all players should start posting their fine letters on social media and recording their private conversations with coaches.

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

None of this will do a thing to his career with the Patriots, but those demented, illiterate gangster-texts should end all his endorsements.

Maybe he can get a deal with "Hooked on Phonics"

[Northern_Blitz]

There's really no way to know for sure if AB ever forced himself on her, with her screaming no unless there is some audio or video evidence. It does feel like a money grab, but who knows. Given what I've seen from AB, it wouldn't surprise me if he went too far at some point.

In any case, AB has shown a severely poor pattern of behavior. IMO, the league should take some kind of action against him, even without the assault accusation. Its' ridiculous to me, that he can get away with threatining the GM of the Raiders and posting a recorded conversation and a fine letter on social media, without any league reprimand. Maybe all players should start posting their fine letters on social media and recording their private conversations with coaches.

I think that's probably why it's a civil case. I think the standard for guilt in civil cases is "more likely than not" as opposed to "beyond a reasonable doubt" in criminal cases.

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

Your first thought was June Cleaver in Airplane, wasn't it?

LOL....loved that movie and scene.

[phillyesq]

I think that's probably why it's a civil case. I think the standard for guilt in civil cases is "more likely than not" as opposed to "beyond a reasonable doubt" in criminal cases.

Correct. The standard is just a preponderance of the evidence - 51% chance that it occurred. As for all of the allegations, I have no idea what evidence will come out and don't want to speculate. But his text certainly seems to confirm that he ejaculated on her back without consent, and I'd be shocked if he prevailed in defending that claim.

[Moonie]

I don't see the Pats punishing a player based on an accusation when their owner seems to be standing on the idea that he should only be punished if he's found guilty.

I heard Kraft ran down to Florida asking the ladies of Orchid how much for a "back jack."

[Buzz]

Whitlock: "AB, next time you call God, you need to LISTEN, otherwise, you're wasting your time and His."

[Northern_Blitz]

Whitlock: "AB, next time you call God, you need to LISTEN, otherwise, you're wasting your time and His."

[Steel Maniac]

I agree, this seems like a "he said, she said" type of situation and AB most likely will face no punishment.

Which is what I said initially; He said, she said. But the FACT she kept coming back makes me believe it's false. Makes a lot of people feel that what she's saying is false. But we'll never , ever know conclusively without a doubt.

[Steel Maniac]

What?
What you just said is the biggest assumption on this thread. You assume what she says is false based on a flawed premise

Fact is we don’t know what happened either way.

My premise is far from flawed. There's not a guy I know who's seen this that doesn't think this isn't a money grab. The woman came back 3 times. Wake up Cap. This isn't the 1950's ; women have agendas these days. Quite assuming that the woman is always right.

[SteelBucks]

My premise is far from flawed. There's not a guy I know who's seen this that doesn't think this isn't a money grab. The woman came back 3 times. Wake up Cap. This isn't the 1950's ; women have agendas these days. Quite assuming that the woman is always right.

I think both. It’s a money grab and AB is guilty.

[Moonie]

My premise is far from flawed. There's not a guy I know who's seen this that doesn't think this isn't a money grab. The woman came back 3 times. Wake up Cap. This isn't the 1950's ; women have agendas these days. Quite assuming that the woman is always right.

It’s a “money grab” in the sense she’s suing him, and asking for money damages. All civil lawsuits are money grabs.

But believing she made it all up is a stretch. He even admitted to one incident in his deranged texts. It would not surprise me at all if a self-entitled, volatile creep like Antonio Brown committed rape. And he’s even more likely to do it with someone he knows and who appears pretty gullible.

She may want money, but balance that against how she will get trashed on social media, and have to deal with Brown’s scorched earth lawyers for years now, and I’d bet it was a difficult choice for her. Is committing perjury worth a lawsuit like this? Seems doubtful.

[Mick'sTeam]

I'm sure I'll get blasted here, I'm not a high volume regular poster. I think it's pretty ignorant to immediately qualify this as a money grab based on the timing of the accusations/charges and the fact that the accuser didn't end whatever relationship they had after the first offense. This thread has a lot of the typical insensitive male responses that situations like this often attract. I have fortunately never been victim of a crime such as this, so I cannot say how I would handle it. We hear all the time about victims of domestic violence and how they remain in situations that put them in peril. Again, never been there, but I can't imagine the mental and psychological toll a situation such as those outlined in the civil case take on someone. I don't know all of the factors that person is juggling when trying to decide if they should proceed with charges or not.
Many have said things along the lines of "we don't know for sure what happened", while at the same time implying it's a money grab or indicating that the alleged victim must have been fine with AB's behavior because she maintained a relationship. This is crazy talk.
I've always enjoyed the banter on this board, but this thread and some of the comments are a bad look.

[Eich]

My premise is far from flawed. There's not a guy I know who's seen this that doesn't think this isn't a money grab. The woman came back 3 times. Wake up Cap. This isn't the 1950's ; women have agendas these days. Quite assuming that the woman is always right.

I don't know why you have a hard time with the 3 times thing. Women come back from a L O T worse to abusive partners.

1st time was an unwanted kiss. Not a big deal.

2nd time was the fluid on the back. A big deal but mostly for being disgusting and demeaning. But again, she wasn't forcibly assaulted here. I can definitely see her coming back because AB was paying the bills.

3rd time, she describes physical, forcible rape. That's where she drew the line and eventually filed a lawsuit.

Again, I'm not saying I believe either side. But what she describes is not difficult to believe on the surface.

IMO, the coming back 3 times is not the part that makes any of it not believable. The timing? Maybe. The details? Maybe. Waiting to report the rape? Maybe.

[Steel Maniac]

I think both. It’s a money grab and AB is guilty.

Well, we'll never know.