2019 Steelers by position: WR. Are we better off?

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  • RuthlessBurgher
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 33208

    #16
    Last year, AB and Juju combined for over 2700 yards by themselves.

    Those two guys amounted for more than half of Ben's 5100+ passing yards last season.

    In order to be a well-balanced, efficient offense, we shouldn't be so pass heavy overall it's certainly not healthy to be so dependent on one or two guys to give you the vast majority of your offensive output.

    I think we'd actually be better off if Ben had something like 400-500 fewer yards through the air next year and we made up for that with more ground-and-pound yardage as opposed to an all-out aerial attack more often than not.

    I think we'd be just fine if we got the following production through the air:
    Juju: 1200-1400 yards
    Moncrief and Vance: 600-700 yards each
    Washington and Conner: 400-500 yards each
    Rogers and Switzer: 300-400 yards each
    Johnson and Samuels: 200-300 yards each

    This would put Ben in the neighborhood of 4600-4800 passing yards as opposed to over 5100.

    But we could make up for that if also we got the following production on the ground:
    Conner: 1000-1200 yards
    Snell: 500-600 yards
    Samuels: 200-300 yards

    Hopefully they at least make a reasonable attempt at somewhat of a committee situation rather than running the wheels off of one guy, because it should keep everyone healthy and fresh as we head toward the playoffs.
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    • pittpete
      Legend
      • Aug 2008
      • 6825

      #17
      Originally posted by The Man of Steel
      Go back and look at the Steelers WR depth chart for Super Bowls 40 and 43. It doesn’t look much better or worse than those teams right now.
      Just about to post something very similiar....good stuff
      sigpic

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      • hawaiiansteel
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 35651

        #18
        Originally posted by The Man of Steel
        Go back and look at the Steelers WR depth chart for Super Bowls 40 and 43. It doesn’t look much better or worse than those teams right now.
        go and look at the WR depth chart of last season's Super Bowl Champions and you'll see you don't need the greatest WRs to win...

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        • steelz09
          Administrator
          • Jan 2008
          • 4675

          #19
          Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
          go and look at the WR depth chart of last season's Super Bowl Champions and you'll see you don't need the greatest WRs to win...
          Their coach is 10x better than ours.

          I won't dispute the fact that you don't need a dominant #1 WR to win a Super Bowl. You don't and that's been proven time and time again.

          I think we have a good WR corps right now. However, if Ju Ju goes down with a injury, we might be in some serious trouble. I need to see more from Moncreif and Washington to feel confident that our entire season wouldn't go down the tubes with a Ju Ju injury.
          Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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          • Oh wow
            Hall of Famer
            • Mar 2019
            • 2753

            #20
            I don’t think we are better off at WR but we may be better off as a team across the board.

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            • Oh wow
              Hall of Famer
              • Mar 2019
              • 2753

              #21
              Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
              go and look at the WR depth chart of last season's Super Bowl Champions and you'll see you don't need the greatest WRs to win...
              Nope. You just need performance enhancing drugs when your WR core isn’t the greatest.

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              • Disco1981
                Pro Bowler
                • Apr 2017
                • 1635

                #22
                Originally posted by The Man of Steel
                Go back and look at the Steelers WR depth chart for Super Bowls 40 and 43. It doesn’t look much better or worse than those teams right now.
                Go back and look at the Defenses of those teams

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                • Disco1981
                  Pro Bowler
                  • Apr 2017
                  • 1635

                  #23
                  Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                  Last year, AB and Juju combined for over 2700 yards by themselves.

                  Those two guys amounted for more than half of Ben's 5100+ passing yards last season.

                  In order to be a well-balanced, efficient offense, we shouldn't be so pass heavy overall it's certainly not healthy to be so dependent on one or two guys to give you the vast majority of your offensive output.

                  I think we'd actually be better off if Ben had something like 400-500 fewer yards through the air next year and we made up for that with more ground-and-pound yardage as opposed to an all-out aerial attack more often than not.

                  I think we'd be just fine if we got the following production through the air:
                  Juju: 1200-1400 yards
                  Moncrief and Vance: 600-700 yards each
                  Washington and Conner: 400-500 yards each
                  Rogers and Switzer: 300-400 yards each
                  Johnson and Samuels: 200-300 yards each

                  This would put Ben in the neighborhood of 4600-4800 passing yards as opposed to over 5100.

                  But we could make up for that if also we got the following production on the ground:
                  Conner: 1000-1200 yards
                  Snell: 500-600 yards
                  Samuels: 200-300 yards

                  Hopefully they at least make a reasonable attempt at somewhat of a committee situation rather than running the wheels off of one guy, because it should keep everyone healthy and fresh as we head toward the playoffs.
                  Johnson will be WAY over 200-300 yards...jmo

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                  • Captain Lemming
                    Legend
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 16063

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Disco1981
                    Go back and look at the Defenses of those teams
                    Go look at EVERY SB WINNER OF THE LAST DECADE.
                    You know what you DONT SEE?

                    Not one HOF caliber receiver.
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                    In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                    TCFCLTC-
                    The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                    • Steel Maniac
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2017
                      • 19472

                      #25
                      Boom........

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                      • Shawn
                        Legend
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 15131

                        #26
                        I agree with Lemming. Too many variables and unknowns to say anything with certainty. What I will say is I see the Steelers cutting loose me first players. And that can’t be a bad thing.
                        Trolls are people too.

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                        • Shawn
                          Legend
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 15131

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                          As a whole group, we are better off. And less predictable because now Ben is just going to throw to the open man. Not having to force feed a guy because he wants 15 targets a game.
                          strong point. I agree being less predictable is always a good thing.
                          Trolls are people too.

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                          • NJ-STEELER
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 12563

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                            Go look at EVERY SB WINNER OF THE LAST DECADE.
                            You know what you DONT SEE?

                            Not one HOF caliber receiver.

                            gronk played a pretty important role in the pats passing game though. His name is mentioned by analysts when discussing the all time best tight ends

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                            • Ernie
                              Legend
                              • Aug 2013
                              • 8470

                              #29
                              We are better off at WR from top to bottom than we were last year.... no doubt in my mind. Solid from #1-5,6

                              Watch guys James Washington and Switzer have a breakout seasons... this could be one of the best WR units in the league.

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                              • Steel Maniac
                                Banned
                                • Apr 2017
                                • 19472

                                #30
                                Moncrief is better then what everybody thinks. I think he opens a lot of peoples eyes.

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