FRED JOHNSON FLA F/A WITH POTENTIAL 6'7" 326lbs

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  • Iron City Inc.
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    • Jun 2013
    • 3237

    FRED JOHNSON FLA F/A WITH POTENTIAL 6'7" 326lbs

    So Marcus Gilbert leaves and I thought going into the draft I would look at some game tapes of top tackles. Watched a few guys and thought Juwaan Taylor of Fla was very good. Watching some of Florida games ,O line highlights and Taylor highlights n he wasn't the only guy who jumped out. So you don't always want to watch a guys highlights but watch highlights of others on the team n see if someone else pops as we used to say.
    So for this large guard there is a bunch of good for a free agent:

    Knee bend is good.

    Hands are a bit grabby but turns his defender and walls off quickly.

    Finishes blocks but will need to finish better at the pro level.

    Gets to defenders on 2nd level n because of his size can shield off and keep the lane open.

    Pulls ok on traps n he was able to get to the penetrator and wall off.

    Pass pro thought he was very solid because he moves his feet well which is nice for a big man.

    Stays on his feet and can handle the bull rush because of size.

    Arm length is good and keeps defenders off his frame.

    Keeps head on a swivel and picks up stunts better than average.

    Hand punch when employed was strong.


    Negatives :


    Looks to have only played right guard.

    Not the smoothest player, more technique work needed in hand placement and could get nastier in finishing blocks and not settling for the wall off.

    Had at least two false starts against Miss St who has an excellent DL that included Simmons.

    To have a chance at the next level he must play more than 1 position. Could he kick to RT ? IDK, Left guard ? Perhaps. If he can flip or somehow stay on the right side and play some RT he may have a shot .

    Low side he gets smoked at camp and a free ride down route 30.

    Mid range he makes PS n improves enough to compete in 20.

    Ceiling is he could develop into a starting LG in 20 or 21.

    So do not make Canton plans for him yet but at least he has upside and should be a interesting watch at Latrobe.
    .
    Shawn Sarrett has a nice piece of clay to mold here so lets hope he could fill MM's shoes and get the most out of this rook

    Games watched ...Georgia & Mississippi St
  • Buzz
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    • Dec 2017
    • 8379

    #2
    I'd feel a lot better about this guy if we still had Munch working with the OL. Like you said, let's hope Sarrett can fill Munchak's shoes.

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    • Shawn
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      • Mar 2008
      • 15131

      #3
      Nice breakdown IC. Looking forward to seeing how he pans out.
      Trolls are people too.

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      • hawaiiansteel
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        • May 2008
        • 35648

        #4
        isn't 6'7" tall for a guard? sounds more like he should take some reps at RT

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        • Iron City Inc.
          Hall of Famer
          • Jun 2013
          • 3237

          #5
          Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
          isn't 6'7" tall for a guard? sounds more like he should take some reps at RT
          Yeah it is but not much DeCastro n Foster are both 6'5. If you can play you can play. Now he'll likely get some RT reps but I'm not sure his lateral quickness is good enough to go n excel at RT but we'll see at Latrobe n in pre-season. If he sticks and I'll say even at PS level, which I think he has a good shot at, he likely has to handle both guard positions.
          Last edited by Iron City Inc.; 05-06-2019, 06:19 PM.

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          • hawaiiansteel
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            • May 2008
            • 35648

            #6
            Steelers have 13 offensive linemen with a case to make the 53 man roster.

            Villanueva-Foster-Pouncey-DeCastro-Feiler/Okorafor
            Finney
            Hawkins
            Banner
            Gray
            Morris
            F. Johnson
            G. Brumfield

            Competition will create excellent depth.

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            • hawaiiansteel
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              • May 2008
              • 35648

              #7
              Three Under-The-Radar Offensive Players Worth Watching During Steelers Training Camp

              By Dave Bryan
              Posted on July 15, 2019

              The Pittsburgh Steelers 2019 training camp will get underway later next week and as we count down the final days until the team arrives at Saint Vincent College in Latrobe, it’s also worth discussing a few under-the-radar players ahead of the first practice taking place at Chuck Noll Field a week from Friday. Today we’ll discuss my three under-the-radar offensive players ahead of the start of training camp and none of them were draft picks. All three are currently considered to be very long shots to ultimately make the team’s 53-man roster.

              G Fred Johnson – The next Ramon Foster? Sure, that’s a little strong, but there’s no doubt that Johnson enters the NFL with a few similar traits that Foster had when he came out of Tennessee. After initially playing some at right tackle at Florida, Johnson, who measured in at this year’s scouting combine at 6071, 326-pounds, ultimately found a permanent home at right guard. While not the most athletic specimen, Johnson’s above-average technique as a run and pass blocker at Florida made his play easily stick out on tape. He pulled some to the left at Florida as well with good results most of the time. On paper, the Steelers are set when it comes to offensive line spots on their 2019 53-man roster. However, one injury to interior player between now and the start of the regular season could result in a spot being available for Johnson to grab. During training camp and the preseason it will be interesting to see if Johnson stays exclusively on the right side and if he gets some limited work at left guard. Johnson received the second highest signing bonus of this year’s undrafted players signed by the Steelers so that tells you quite a bit about how they felt about him.

              The Pittsburgh Steelers 2019 training camp will get underway later next week and as we count down the final days until the team arrives at Saint Vincent

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              • Oviedo
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 23824

                #8
                Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                Steelers have 13 offensive linemen with a case to make the 53 man roster.

                Villanueva-Foster-Pouncey-DeCastro-Feiler/Okorafor
                Finney
                Hawkins
                Banner
                Gray
                Morris
                F. Johnson
                G. Brumfield

                Competition will create excellent depth.

                https://twitter.com/Alex_Kozora?ref_...Ctwgr%5Eauthor
                Add Tackle Damian Prince from Maryland to that list
                "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                • Steel Maniac
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2017
                  • 19472

                  #9
                  Sounds like an O-line that could be/should be road graders when it all shakes out. Maybe dominate time of possession hopefully.

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                  • Iron City Inc.
                    Hall of Famer
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 3237

                    #10
                    An O line with some depth. Team depth overall is solid. An area where perhaps that depth could lead to a trade prior to the pre-season ending. Be nice for a change where we pick up an extra draft pick ( even a late selection) at the end of camp instead of trading one away because we're thin somewhere.

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                    • RuthlessBurgher
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                      • May 2008
                      • 33208

                      #11
                      Or maybe trade away some extra depth at OL, WR, or CB to upgrade depth options at TE or S.
                      Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                      Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                      We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                      We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                      • Steel Maniac
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                        • Apr 2017
                        • 19472

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Iron City Inc.
                        An O line with some depth. Team depth overall is solid. An area where perhaps that depth could lead to a trade prior to the pre-season ending. Be nice for a change where we pick up an extra draft pick ( even a late selection) at the end of camp instead of trading one away because we're thin somewhere.
                        True..........but it never hurts to have a lot of O-line depth. It's interesting. If we can get through camp with no injuries in that line then it's definitely something to ponder.

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                        • Captain Lemming
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                          • Jun 2008
                          • 16041

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                          True..........but it never hurts to have a lot of O-line depth. It's interesting. If we can get through camp with no injuries in that line then it's definitely something to ponder.
                          True. I love me some D DeCastro…….but he is known to take a teammate out all by himself.
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                          • Steel Maniac
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                            • Apr 2017
                            • 19472

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                            True. I love me some D DeCastro…….but he is known to take a teammate out all by himself.
                            Ha! Hopefully not this year. Because we are running the rock strong this year. By hook or crook.

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                            • Oviedo
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                              • May 2008
                              • 23824

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Iron City Inc.
                              An O line with some depth. Team depth overall is solid. An area where perhaps that depth could lead to a trade prior to the pre-season ending. Be nice for a change where we pick up an extra draft pick ( even a late selection) at the end of camp instead of trading one away because we're thin somewhere.
                              Not sure we trade guys who have already started or been key back ups, e.g. Finney. Not sure there is trade value for the other guys who haven't made team before and other teams know will likely need to be cut or stashed on the practice squad.

                              With the number of "potentially" good offensive linemen we have, likely the only way we keep them is a training camp "IR worthy" injury
                              "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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