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It looks like the Steelers had competition to move up and take Bush. Both the Giants and Falcons tried to get the pick. Also, it seems Denver was going to pick Bush but the Steeler offer was too good. All this according to Peter King who was in the Denver draft room. Here is the entire story:
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As many on this site think ... The Rooney's suck, Colbert sucks, Tomlin sucks, the coaches suck, and the players suck.
but Go Steelers!!!
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nice... now no one can say "they gave up too much" because it's what it took to get him...2013 MNF Executive Champion! -
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In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:
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Denver, coming off 5-11 and 6-10 seasons in succession...they needed a greater quantity of prime picks overall. A mid-first, a mid-second, and a future 3rd is more valuable to their overall team rebuilding effort than one single potentially elite player they could have taken with their early first round pick.
On the other hand, that one top-notch talent in the middle could be the final piece that we need to bring our overall defense together.
This trade could potentially benefit both teams. They were able to get Flacco a dynamic TE prospect in Noah Fant at #20 (we know Flacco loves throwing to TE's more than anything), and they were also able to use our #52 to trade up earlier in round 2 to also get potential future Flacco replacement Drew Lock as well.
Speaking of which, how weird is it that the two horsey-based NFL teams now have QB's named Drew Lock and Drew Luck. Odd.Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.
Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.
We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.
We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.Comment
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Nice in theory. But if that were standard, nobody would keep a top 10 pick (perhaps with QB needs excepted).
I will take "great" over quantity every time. That is why teams value top picks even if they have "quantity" needs.
The fact that we won a bidding war and drafted the same dude the trading team wanted only ensures that we definitely paid way more than market value to move up.
If he is.......I know people will hate this.......the next Ray Lewis, it will be well worth it.
I am hopeful that this is the case.
Frankly, the talk of his "leadership" points to this possibility.
I hear we scouted him way in excess of typical so hopefully we know something other teams dont.
But I take no solace in knowing we had to outbid other teams to get him, because even the teams who want him, must feel (hopefully they are wrong) it cost too much to acquire him.Last edited by Captain Lemming; 04-30-2019, 11:54 AM.sigpic
In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:
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The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than CowherComment
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Based on the surprising team defense competence and immediate precipitous drop off when Shazier was lost 2 years ago, I sure hope Bush is the one missing pieceComment
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Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.
Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.
We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.
We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.Comment
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I'm not sure it's as simple as that. Winning a bidding war doesn't necessarily mean more than market value was given up. For instance, let's say I list my house for $350,000, which is right in line with the market. There are other factors that can impact my ultimate selling point. Two potential buyers could come in with low offers, but I may need to sell the house in order to buy my next. I may have needs, or in football terms - holes in many parts of the team, that need to be filled. Those low offers could turn in to a bidding war, leading me to finding myself debating whether I take an offer, or weigh potentially losing the offers because my perceived value of the house is not the same as theirs. Eventually I sell at $325k, below market value, but a trade off I was willing to make because of other needs/situations.
Bush's on-field performance will determine whether or not we paid too much for him, not the fact that we outbid other teams.Comment
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I think it says our need was greater.Trolls are people too.Comment
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The debate about whether or not we gave up too much will only happen if Bush doesn't work out.
If he's the player our front office envisions him being, it will all be moot. No one will care what we gave up.
No one cares what we gave up for Troy because we got a Hall of Famer.
No one cares what we gave up for Santonio because we got a Super Bowl MVP.
Hopefully no one will care what we gave up for Bush going forward due to some similar accomplishment.Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.
Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.
We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.
We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.Comment
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In a rare year where we have extra ammo in the draft coupled with next year where we anticipate an extra comp pick allowed us to do what we don't often do. Quality over quantity for us in this decision. Filling a huge position of need plays into the factor. If Bush is a impact player, pro bowl caliber backer we're not going to care about the 2 picks we gave up.Comment
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