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  • SS Laser
    Pro Bowler
    • Apr 2009
    • 1929

    Ben's contract?

    As every day passes I wonder if Ben is playing hardball with his grandfathers?
    Did the Steelers look to low ball or get a Steelers friendly deal done?
    Did Colberts comments help father Ben get a top deal?
    Figured this would be all wrapped up by now. Are there any impending QB contracts coming that could hold up Ben's deal?
  • Steel Maniac
    Banned
    • Apr 2017
    • 19472

    #2
    Let's not put stuff in we have no proof of yet. Let's let it play out first. Your nervous thou; I get it. We all would have liked it done already too. Hang in there.

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    • RuthlessBurgher
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 33208

      #3
      Omar Khan could probably write contracts for guys like Dan McCullers or Eli Rogers in his sleep, but franchise QB contracts are never simple. Always a ton of moving parts to deal with and work out. Especially since this should be Ben's last NFL contract. Patience, grasshopper.
      Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

      Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

      We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

      We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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      • fordfixer
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 10922

        #4
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        Originally posted by Steel Maniac
        Let's not put stuff in we have no proof of yet. Let's let it play out first. Your nervous thou; I get it. We all would have liked it done already too. Hang in there.
        Where should we put it then , this is a discussion board after all

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        • RuthlessBurgher
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 33208

          #5
          Originally posted by fordfixer
          X
          Where should we put it then , this is a discussion board after all
          You should stick it in your pipe, and smoke it. Obviously.
          Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

          Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

          We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

          We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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          • SS Laser
            Pro Bowler
            • Apr 2009
            • 1929

            #6
            He is in the top 15 QB's right about 13th at OTC. Bet he wants to be paid top 3-5.
            And I am saying he is playing hardball after his season and Colberts comments. But in my original posts wonder if anyone felt the same. Oh yea this should be his last contract for crying out loud!
            Now after thinking more about this, I now wonder why we all kind of figured this would be "easy" and "done already"!
            Might take awhile!

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            • Oh wow
              Hall of Famer
              • Mar 2019
              • 2753

              #7
              Originally posted by fordfixer
              X
              Where should we put it then , this is a discussion board after all
              The irony in his post is hilarious.

              Same dude who tells us what goes on behind closed door meetings now wants people to wait before posting.

              Oh wow
              Last edited by Oh wow; 03-18-2019, 12:43 PM.

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              • Oh wow
                Hall of Famer
                • Mar 2019
                • 2753

                #8
                Originally posted by SS Laser
                He is in the top 15 QB's right about 13th at OTC. Bet he wants to be paid top 3-5.
                And I am saying he is playing hardball after his season and Colberts comments. But in my original posts wonder if anyone felt the same. Oh yea this should be his last contract for crying out loud!
                Now after thinking more about this, I now wonder why we all kind of figured this would be "easy" and "done already"!
                Might take awhile!
                I hope he breaks the bank

                Will be fun watching everyone blame every other contract besides the largest one as the reason we can’t field a decent defense.

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                • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 10281

                  #9
                  I hope that it is all about structure. For example, say the idea is a 3 year, $75M contract. How can we do that and keep as much cap space available during those three years, while essentially guaranteeing it all gets paid out?

                  How about something along the lines of a five year, $125M deal with a $50M SB and salaries of $7M, $8M, $10M, $25M, $25M.

                  Year 1: $17M cap hit
                  Year 2: $18M cap hit
                  Year 3: $20M cap hit
                  Year 4: $35M cap hit
                  Year 5: $35M cap hit

                  However, since Ben won't be playing after three years, he is cut after June 1 of year 4 so a dead cap hit (deferred cap hit) of $10M in each of years 4 and 5. $55M over the first three years on a cap friendly deal. He won't be cut prior to year 4 as a third year cut accelerates $30M in dead cap dough.
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                  • brothervad
                    Pro Bowler
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 1914

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Oh wow
                    I hope he breaks the bank

                    Will be fun watching everyone blame every other contract besides the largest one as the reason we canÂ’t field a decent defense.
                    I have never questioned your being a fan but statements like this challenge that belief.

                    I care only that the Steelers succeed not so much that fanboys get outed.

                    Hypothetical for you oh wow

                    What say conversely the Steelers say screw it let him go to FA after the contract, or let him retire or trade him?

                    What would you be saying about the Steelers blowing up and go into total rebuild mode.

                    Btw I do believe you are a fan but I think being right on this clouds many people's judgment.

                    I could be wrong though...



                    Brothervad

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                    • Disco1981
                      Pro Bowler
                      • Apr 2017
                      • 1635

                      #11
                      If Ben asks for the moon, Then he is just like the rest...More worried about money and status. Than being a team player, which all the talking heads have been screaming...And just will reinforce what all the talk, and ex-players have been saying

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                      • SS Laser
                        Pro Bowler
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 1929

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Disco1981
                        If Ben asks for the moon, Then he is just like the rest...More worried about money and status. Than being a team player, which all the talking heads have been screaming...And just will reinforce what all the talk, and ex-players have been saying
                        I agree. I don't think Ben or most high end players care about what fans or media think.
                        And more info I found. Wilson is up for an extension also. Not sure that effects Ben's final contract at all. Because it is his final one after all.

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                        • Buzz
                          Legend
                          • Dec 2017
                          • 8379

                          #13
                          Originally posted by SS Laser
                          I agree. I don't think Ben or most high end players care about what fans or media think.
                          And more info I found. Wilson is up for an extension also. Not sure that effects Ben's final contract at all. Because it is his final one after all.
                          Who's Wilson?

                          Last Wilson I can remember playing for the Steelers was Cedrick, but maybe I have forgotten?

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                          • RuthlessBurgher
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 33208

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Buzz
                            Who's Wilson?

                            Last Wilson I can remember playing for the Steelers was Cedrick, but maybe I have forgotten?
                            I believe he's referring to Russell Wilson, another franchise QB who is looking for an extension at the same time as Ben.
                            Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                            Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                            We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                            We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                            • pittpete
                              Legend
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 6825

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Oh wow
                              I hope he breaks the bank

                              Will be fun watching everyone blame every other contract besides the largest one as the reason we can’t field a decent defense.
                              As long as he isnt trying to reset the QB market it should be fine
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