Steelers sign WR Donte Moncrief on 2 year deal

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  • Ernie
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    • Aug 2013
    • 8470

    #31
    Originally posted by SteelBucks
    The pink elephant is still in the room. The giant need at ILB.
    That's true.. I'd look at Zack Brown from the Skins... or plan on drafting one very high.

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    • SteelBucks
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      • Aug 2008
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      #32
      Originally posted by Ernie
      That's true.. I'd look at Zack Brown from the Skins... or plan on drafting one very high.
      Unless we make a move in FA or a trade, I’d bet the house on LB in round 1.

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      • Ernie
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        • Aug 2013
        • 8470

        #33
        Originally posted by SteelBucks
        Unless we make a move in FA or a trade, I’d bet the house on LB in round 1.
        Yep... time to start studying Mac Wilson. Devin Bush will end up a Raven... unless they trade ahead of the Bengals to get Devin White.

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        • SteelBucks
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          • Aug 2008
          • 8075

          #34
          Originally posted by Ernie
          Yep... time to start studying Mac Wilson. Devin Bush will end up a Raven... unless they trade ahead of the Bengals to get Devin White.
          In my perfect world Devin White is a Steeler after a trade with Buffalo.

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          • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
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            • May 2008
            • 3937

            #35
            We will be trading up to secure ILB. White may be too expensive. If you could get Denver to bite on our 1st, 2nd, & 5th...Do it. They may ask for 4 but I wouldn't budge.

            I think we we trade up with Carolina for Bush so Ravens don't get him. We get #16 & #154 they get #20 & #83. Shhh..Don't tell anyone.

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            • Ernie
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              • Aug 2013
              • 8470

              #36
              Originally posted by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
              We will be trading up to secure ILB. White may be too expensive. If you could get Denver to bite on our 1st, 2nd, & 5th...Do it. They may ask for 4 but I wouldn't budge.

              I think we we trade up with Carolina for Bush so Ravens don't get him. We get #16 & #154 they get #20 & #83. Shhh..Don't tell anyone.
              haha... this has "Reach" written all over it... especially since we suspect the Ravens will be trying to do the same thing.

              Id be fine with doing what you have proposed though (with Carolina)... because we picked up Moncrief.

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              • SteelBucks
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                • Aug 2008
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                #37
                Originally posted by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                We will be trading up to secure ILB. White may be too expensive. If you could get Denver to bite on our 1st, 2nd, & 5th...Do it. They may ask for 4 but I wouldn't budge.

                I think we we trade up with Carolina for Bush so Ravens don't get him. We get #16 & #154 they get #20 & #83. Shhh..Don't tell anyone.
                I wonder what the price tag would be to trade up and grab White? It would make for a boring draft day 2 and 3 but I’d be willing for a bold move. Fix the ILB need once and for all.

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                • steelz09
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                  • Jan 2008
                  • 4675

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Chadman
                  He’s a deep threat, a player to take the top of the D, opening things up for JuJu, Switzer and Rogers, but also doesn’t take away the possibility of drafting another WR, just means there’s no dire ‘need’ to do it. So far the 2 FA signings have been solid.

                  Overlook his stats last season as he had the worst combination of QB’s in the NFL throwing to him.

                  One positive, he had some success playing with Andrew Luck, who scrambles and extends plays something like what Ben can do. Steelers WR’s need to be flexible enough in their mind to break off routes, throw in double moves etc, to get separation in those instances, which he has shown he can do.
                  They are doing what they normally do. Try to fill holes with mid tier FAs to allow them to draft BPA at a position of need rather than reaching (although they still have reached in the recent past).

                  ILB, OLB and TE are top of the list imo. I still would like to include CB but I feel the signing of Nelson has dropped it from the high priority list.
                  Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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                  • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
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                    • May 2008
                    • 3937

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Ernie
                    haha... this has "Reach" written all over it... especially since we suspect the Ravens will be trying to do the same thing.

                    Id be fine with doing what you have proposed though (with Carolina)... because we picked up Moncrief.
                    Yeah I don't see it as a reach. He's definitely a solid pick at #20. But he is a need. Been a need for a long time.
                    You have to go get one.

                    Steelers have tried to go up & get their LB. I have no problem even going up for White. Biggest deficiency in the defense is right in the middle. Can not correct within or FA long term. You have to have an ILB that can stay on field. Today's NFL has no time for in-drive rotation. It's end of story. We have our situational LBs. Steelers need one long term & a 2nd for rotation & insurance. You can get 2nd FA...There are some out there including Fort which is why the interest.I hear he wants to start & that's not In the plans but a good 2 at the price.
                    Last edited by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY; 03-14-2019, 10:21 AM.

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                    • Ernie
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                      • Aug 2013
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by steelz09
                      They are doing what they normally do. Try to fill holes with mid tier FAs to allow them to draft BPA at a position of need rather than reaching (although they still have reached in the recent past).

                      ILB, OLB and TE are top of the list imo. I still would like to include CB but I feel the signing of Nelson has dropped it from the high priority list.
                      Agreed..... hope those are our 1st 3 picks.

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                      • SteelBucks
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                        • Aug 2008
                        • 8075

                        #41
                        Originally posted by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                        Yeah I don't see it as a reach. He's definitely a solid pick at #20. But he is a need. Been a need for a long time.
                        You have to go get one.

                        Steelers have tried to go up & get their LB. I have no problem even going up for White. Biggest deficiency in the defense is right in the middle. Can not correct within or FA long term. You have to have an ILB that can stay on field. Today's NFL has no time for in-drive rotation. It's end of story. We have our situational LBs. Steelers need one long term & a 2nd for rotation & insurance. You can get 2nd FA...There are some out there.
                        Agreed. We tried with Bostic but he was a stop gap. Steelers need to be agressive at ILB or we’re stuck with more of the same. I’m on the White Train until someone gives me a good excuse to jump off.

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                        • Ernie
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                          • Aug 2013
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                          #42
                          Originally posted by SteelBucks
                          Agreed. We tried with Bostic but he was a stop gap. Steelers need to be agressive at ILB or we’re stuck with more of the same. I’m on the White Train until someone gives me a good excuse to jump off.
                          Hey Im a D. White fan. The question is, how much do you give up in order to get him? Is it worth giving up the rest of the draft? I'm no draft expert but I'd have to assume it involves multiple picks...and probably a 1st rounder next year.

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                          • SteelBucks
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                            • Aug 2008
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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Ernie
                            Hey Im a D. White fan. The question is, how much do you give up in order to get him? Is it worth giving up the rest of the draft? I'm no draft expert but I'd have to assume it involves multiple picks...and probably a 1st rounder next year.
                            Yeah, I’m not sure if it would involve a 1st next year but it would involve multiple picks. We have 10 picks...I’m willing to sacrifice some.

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                            • Steel Maniac
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                              • Apr 2017
                              • 19472

                              #44
                              Nope..I"m not willing to move any picks for any offensive player this year. If we package picks to get someone, it has to be someone on defense.

                              We can't keep doing the same stupid stuff we've been doing by spending heavy on one side of the ball. I'm in total agreement with Captain Lemming in that we need to spend on the defense now; move draft picks for players on defense. That's what we need to emphasize now.

                              I like White too but we need to do different going forward.

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                              • flippy
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                                • Dec 2008
                                • 17088

                                #45
                                I kinda feel like we're taking a chance on the Artie Burns of receivers. Great athlete. Still relatively young. But I don't think his game is that well put together and there's been question around how hard this guy works to improve/get better.

                                I feel like he's just another younger version of DHB which is fine, but I kinda think of him as another body at WR.

                                Some of his best performances seem to have come against the Steelers so maybe that's why we liked him?
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