Let's Talk Tomlin

[Eddie Spaghetti]

it seems like the usual apologists want to throw up their hands and say what could he do as it relates to the head coach. it seems like they want to pretend this happened in a vacuum when it's obviously been brewing for some time

doesn't managing players and their egos fall under the realm of head coaching duties?

watching a generational talent like AB, albeit an a$$hole walk away for peanuts, reflects poorly on him and Colbert as well. somebody should have seen the need to get out in front of this thing before it mushroomed into the Chernobyl we see today

if his seat wasn't warm before it should be pretty damn hot right now. he gets paid to steer the ship and it looks like a wreck right about now

[Buzz]

it seems like the usual apologists want to throw up their hands and say what could he do as it relates to the head coach. it seems like they want to pretend this happened in a vacuum when it's obviously been brewing for some time

doesn't managing players and their egos fall under the realm of head coaching duties?

watching a generational talent like AB, albeit an a$$hole walk away for peanuts, reflects poorly on him and Colbert as well. somebody should have seen the need to get out in front of this thing before it mushroomed into the Chernobyl we see today

if his seat wasn't warm before it should be pretty damn hot right now. he gets paid to steer the ship and it looks like a wreck right about now

Agreed.

Knowing what a problem AB was becoming, Tomlin and Colbert should never have given him the big extension 2 years ago.

[Steel Maniac]

it seems like the usual apologists want to throw up their hands and say what could he do as it relates to the head coach. it seems like they want to pretend this happened in a vacuum when it's obviously been brewing for some time

doesn't managing players and their egos fall under the realm of head coaching duties?

watching a generational talent like AB, albeit an a$$hole walk away for peanuts, reflects poorly on him and Colbert as well. somebody should have seen the need to get out in front of this thing before it mushroomed into the Chernobyl we see today

if his seat wasn't warm before it should be pretty damn hot right now. he gets paid to steer the ship and it looks like a wreck right about now

Of course. If Tomlin killed someone in the middle of Pittsburgh with the gun in his hand, they’d say he didn’t do it. No surprise.

[squidkid]

You are assuming Rooney cares about winning. He seemed pretty impressed that we almost made the playoffs.

[pittpete]

Im no Tomlin supporter and i'm not a Tomlin hater but Tomlin is definitely on a short leash.
Lets see what happens this year.
It may just be his last coaching the Steelers.

[SS Laser]

Both of these players want Guaranteed money or there not playing.
Steelers did screw this up restructuring AB's deal to keep him happy. After a 13-3 season I believe with out looking it up. Plan has been to keep him happy enough to make a run at the Super Bowl.
The AB pattern was fine as long as he had guaranteed money.
Thats all that matters to these 2 former players.
I am glad both are former players at this point.
The locker room problem was AB as I see it. Not sure what Tomlin could do? Soon as Tomlin sits him it all blows up.
If that did not happen and they made the playoffs then lost let's say. AB would have been looking for new money from the Steelers again. But I think he knew they would not do that all season. Hence the trouble all season.

[pittpete]

Funny how $$$ became a problem once OBJ got his....
Coincidence???

[SS Laser]

Funny how $$$ became a problem once OBJ got his....
Coincidence???

AB also stood by Bell. Should have seen the writing on the wall last off season.

[phillyesq]

I think Tomlin has many flaws, but I don't think this is a Tomlin issue. I think AB wanted more money, his agent told him this was how to go about doing it, and their plan worked perfectly. I don't believe for a minute that this was about ego or antyhing else. It was purely about money.

[Eddie Spaghetti]

I think Tomlin has many flaws, but I don't think this is a Tomlin issue. I think AB wanted more money, his agent told him this was how to go about doing it, and their plan worked perfectly. I don't believe for a minute that this was about ego or antyhing else. It was purely about money.

I guess I can hear that argument up to a point

but also believe that someone at some point should have gotten ben/AB and whoever else into a room and tried to iron some things out

for being lauded as a players coach, it sure seems like tomlin lacks respect from his most visible players

[squidkid]

I think Tomlin has many flaws, but I don't think this is a Tomlin issue. I think AB wanted more money, his agent told him this was how to go about doing it, and their plan worked perfectly. I don't believe for a minute that this was about ego or antyhing else. It was purely about money.

I want some one to ask Tomlin why he allowed AB to stay off grounds while the rest had to stay in dorms,

[Terrapin]

I'd still love someone to answer the simple question of 'what exactly is Tomlin good at'?

He obviously has no respect from his players, so he's not a 'players coach'.
His game management speaks for itself
His drafting is atrocious
His defenses have been laughable, especially once Cowhers players left

Aside from having some cool quips, what exactly are his strengths?

[flippy]

There’s been problems with the Steelers for a while. Someone is to blame. It’s hard to know if it’s Tomlin, Colbert, or Rooney that deserves most of the blame.

We we can speculate, but it’s really unknowable.

IMHO, Colbert has the most egg on his face for this one based on all of his comments to the media.

[hawaiiansteel]

I'd still love someone to answer the simple question of 'what exactly is Tomlin good at'?

He obviously has no respect from his players, so he's not a 'players coach'.
His game management speaks for itself
His drafting is atrocious
His defenses have been laughable, especially once Cowhers players left

Aside from having some cool quips, what exactly are his strengths?

he's never had a losing season

[squidkid]

he's never had a losing season

And plenty of people are satisfied with that. Unfortunately, our owner is one of them