Realistically....what can we get for AB?

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  • steeler_george
    Hall of Famer
    • Dec 2008
    • 3417

    https://247sports.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/Article/Steelers-exploring-trade-options-for-Antonio-Brown-128378883/

    Antonio Brown (https://247sports.com/Player/Antonio-Brown-75967)'s uncertain future in Pittsburgh remains the NFL's top non-Super Bowl storyline. On Sunday, NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reported (https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1089559656492601346) that the Steelers are exploring trade options for Brown, who has three years remaining on his current deal.
    "While a fresh start is now the preferred outcome, the team has not yet given Brown and his agent permission to facilitate a trade," Rapoport reported. "It’s in the team’s handsThe Steelers are exploring trade options, but Brown hasn’t closed the door on returning. He’s maintained a steady dialogue with some in the organization he’s close with to express that sentiment. Still, he should draw significant interest on the market."
    Reports have surfaced that the Steelers would probably receive a first round pick for Brown, who last season caught 104 passes for 1,273 yard and a league high 15 touchdowns. Pittsburgh is surely looking for a first round pick in exchange for Brown, the franchise's second all-time leader in catches, yards and touchdowns. It's possible that the Steelers discussed possible trade options during this past weekend's Senior Bowl, as Pittsburgh GM Kevin Colbert and Steelers' head coach Mike Tomlin were on hand in Mobile, Alabama. If the Steelers decide to trade Brown, they would most likely do so between March 13-17, as Brown would be owed $2.5 million in roster bonus if he is still on Pittsburgh's payroll on March 17.
    The Steelers would most likely receive a draft pick for Brown, although they could try to trade him for a Pro Bowl caliber player that can help fill one of the team's current needs. One player that comes to mind is New York Jets' safety Jamal Adams (https://247sports.com/Player/Jamal-Adams-13171), who Pittsburgh receiver JuJu Smith-Schuster (https://247sports.com/Player/JuJu-Smith-Schuster-27684) openly recruited during Pro Bowl week. Adams has two years remaining on his rookie contract.
    View image on Twitter (https://twitter.com/TeamJuJu/status/1088904204566102018/photo/1)





    Did Juju hear something and that is why he spoke openly about recruiting Adams, or is this more BS from Ian Rapport.

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    • RuthlessBurgher
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 33208

      I'd take AB for Jamal Adams straight up in a heartbeat.
      Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

      Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

      We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

      We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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      • SidSmythe
        Hall of Famer
        • Sep 2008
        • 4708

        Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
        I'd take AB for Jamal Adams straight up in a heartbeat.
        I don't think Jamal Adams is the difference between a good defense and a great defense.
        HOWEVER
        AB would be the difference between a great offense and a mediocre (ie.Week 17) offense
        Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
        Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
        Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...!!!

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        • steeler_george
          Hall of Famer
          • Dec 2008
          • 3417

          Originally posted by SidSmythe
          I don't think Jamal Adams is the difference between a good defense and a great defense.
          HOWEVER
          AB would be the difference between a great offense and a mediocre (ie.Week 17) offense
          100% CORRECT!

          Sadly, we really don't have have that option is AB is done here...

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          • NorthCoast
            Legend
            • Sep 2008
            • 26626

            Not convinced AB is done in Pittsburgh. Everything I am reading is hearsay, speculation, and media-speak. No one directly connected to AB or the Steelers has made a public disclosure on the current wants or status Brown.

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            • Ernie
              Legend
              • Aug 2013
              • 8470

              Originally posted by SidSmythe
              I don't think Jamal Adams is the difference between a good defense and a great defense.
              HOWEVER
              AB would be the difference between a great offense and a mediocre (ie.Week 17) offense
              I think the situation that played out with AB in week 17 was the reason why we came out flat against the Bengals.

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              • Disco1981
                Pro Bowler
                • Apr 2017
                • 1635

                Originally posted by SidSmythe
                I don't think Jamal Adams is the difference between a good defense and a great defense.
                HOWEVER
                AB would be the difference between a great offense and a mediocre (ie.Week 17) offense
                Say we trade AB for Adams, Let's play GM...

                We trade AB for Adams, now at no.20 in the draft, you go for ILB, CB, or WR...

                Say we go WR, now you pick up 2 of the following in FA...Mosely, Barr, Darby, K.J.Wright, Barr, Preston Smith etc.

                If we go ILB or CB...Now you take one of the aforementioned players plus, one of the others you don't draft...ex: you take ILB in draft, you take CB in FA, you go CB in draft, ILB in FA...

                Also, if you go this route, now you add a Golden Tate, Tyrell Williams, John Brown type in FA also...

                This one trade creates a myriad of moves...Makes you a lil stronger in some areas, lil weaker in others...But not a epic falloff imo...just a whole different team...

                Thoughts?

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                • SS Laser
                  Pro Bowler
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 1929

                  Originally posted by NorthCoast
                  Not convinced AB is done in Pittsburgh. Everything I am reading is hearsay, speculation, and media-speak. No one directly connected to AB or the Steelers has made a public disclosure on the current wants or status Brown.
                  Not saying your points are wrong. But I see AB wants out by his twitter actions and actions towards the team. Plus I think he is starting to implode. With 2 questionable off field problems this season and could continue. His mentors are a joke. Well as far as mentoring to win championships. Stats and maybe money sure. Just think it is time to move on. Someone would have to change and I don't think AB would really want to. Might say the right things and even try then fall right back into disgruntled WR role. And I believe that the offense and Ben might step up there game with no AB around to save them. Different game plans and schemes might pave the way for a more balanced better TEAM!

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                  • Northern_Blitz
                    Legend
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 24350

                    Originally posted by steeler_george
                    100% CORRECT!

                    Sadly, we really don't have have that option is AB is done here...
                    We'll see.

                    It sounds like the rhetoric has softened a bit since the end of the season.

                    I think it will continue to move toward reconciliation over the next month.

                    Hopefully we keep him and he straightens up.

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                    • Mr.wizard
                      Legend
                      • May 2014
                      • 6686

                      You don't trade AB for less than a 1st round pick or comparable caliber player. Steelers must keep the option to being Brown back open, this is why you see the Steelers starting to soften.

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                      • Ernie
                        Legend
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 8470

                        Originally posted by Mr.wizard
                        You don't trade AB for less than a 1st round pick or comparable caliber player. Steelers must keep the option to being Brown back open, this is why you see the Steelers starting to soften.
                        They are starting to soften... because the "Demand" doesn't appear to be there.

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                        • Oviedo
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 23816

                          Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                          We'll see.

                          It sounds like the rhetoric has softened a bit since the end of the season.

                          I think it will continue to move toward reconciliation over the next month.

                          Hopefully we keep him and he straightens up.
                          I still think there is a higher probability he is back next season versus gone.

                          As I said several weeks ago. Let everyone decompress and see if calmer minds prevail.
                          "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                          • Northern_Blitz
                            Legend
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 24350

                            Originally posted by Oviedo
                            I still think there is a higher probability he is back next season versus gone.

                            As I said several weeks ago. Let everyone decompress and see if calmer minds prevail.
                            This. Players not being traded seems like it's always the higher percentage.

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                            • steeler_george
                              Hall of Famer
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 3417

                              I would love to keep AB, but it is going to take a miracle to make it work with the approval of us the fans.

                              What I mean by approval, need AB to stop his BS ego no one respects him.
                              Public apology to his team, and us.
                              To make it work out that Tomlin is not his *itch
                              Discipline by Rooney.
                              And a media twist that makes the Steelers of old and not punked down by one great player.

                              AS I AM TYPING THIS, I JUST DON'T SEE IT, HE TARNISHED HIS LOYALTY TO THE BLACK AND GOLD. HE WOULD NEVER BE FORGIVEN BY US, AND WILL BE A LOCKER DISTRACTION TILL HE LEAVES/ RETIRE AS STEELER.

                              Some team would give us a first rounder for sure...

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                              • Buzz
                                Legend
                                • Dec 2017
                                • 8358

                                I hope we can get a first-round pick for AB... but we dumped Santonio Holmes for a 5th round choice, I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that Brown gets shipped for a 2nd rounder.

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