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  • Northern_Blitz
    Legend
    • Dec 2008
    • 24382

    Originally posted by feltdizz
    i get that part...

    its an an old topic but I always found it odd to say it’s either Bell or a great defensive player.

    My initial post was a response to 09 asking if Bell would be more valuable that a high priced defender.
    I think you're right that it would be both in an ideal world.

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    • steelz09
      Administrator
      • Jan 2008
      • 4675

      Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
      Mack is a great player for sure, but he's making more money than Ben right now.

      He was only going to a team that is starting a QB who is still on a reasonable rookie contract.

      Any team that is already paying a veteran franchise QB a market value deal cannot also afford to pay a defense player an average salary of $23.5M per year.
      If you took Bell's # off the table and got rid of Tuitt's contract you would.

      I would swap those 2 of Mack.
      Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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      • feltdizz
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 27564

        Originally posted by steelz09
        If you took Bell's # off the table and got rid of Tuitt's contract you would.

        I would swap those 2 of Mack.
        No way we pay a defender more than a franchise QB.

        You would... the Steelers wouldn’t.
        Steelers 27
        Rats 16

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        • steelz09
          Administrator
          • Jan 2008
          • 4675

          Originally posted by feltdizz
          No way we pay a defender more than a franchise QB.

          You would... the Steelers wouldn’t.
          Did I say that? Read it again. You are arguing for the sake of arguing.

          Ben is up for a new contract anyway assuming he doesn't retire.
          Last edited by steelz09; 10-04-2018, 08:54 PM.
          Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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          • feltdizz
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 27564

            Originally posted by steelz09
            Did I say that? Read it again. You are arguing for the sake of arguing.

            Ben is up for a new contract anyway assuming he doesn't retire.
            Yes... you just said it. Wtf?

            If we used Bell and Tuitts money you would sign Mack and pay him more than Ben

            you drunk or high?
            Steelers 27
            Rats 16

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            • steelz09
              Administrator
              • Jan 2008
              • 4675

              Originally posted by feltdizz
              Yes... you just said it. Wtf?

              If we used Bell and Tuitts money you would sign Mack and pay him more than Ben

              you drunk or high?
              Jesus ****in Christ you must be retarded.
              Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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              • pittpete
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                • Aug 2008
                • 6825

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                • steelz09
                  Administrator
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 4675

                  Originally posted by pittpete
                  Hahahaha. That sounds about right.
                  Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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                  • RuthlessBurgher
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 33208

                    Steelers offered Le’Veon Bell $47 million over three years

                    Posted by Mike Florio on October 5, 2018, 12:54 PM EDT

                    The window closed on the Steelers signing running back Le'Veon Bell to a long-term deal nearly three months ago. Before it closed, the Steelers were prepared to commit paying $47 million over three years to Bell, a league source tells PFT.

                    And as to the notion that only $10 million would have been fully guaranteed, at a time when the 2018 franchise tender for Bell is $14.54 million, the package included a $10 million roster bonus due not long after signing, making the practical guarantee $20 million. The Steelers would have avoided that payment only by cutting Bell within days after giving him $10 million to sign.

                    The cash flow beyond the initial $20 million still isn’t known, and neither is the amount that would have been guaranteed for injury only. Still, if Bell shows up for Week Seven and if he gets the full amount of his remaining franchise tender for 2018 (roughly $9 million), he’ll need to get $38 million over the first two years of a contract signed on the open market, in order to get to where he would have been — assuming that the Steelers would have kept him for three full years under the terms of the long-term deal.

                    The duration and structure of the contract beyond 2020 also would be a factor. If Bell had collected $47 million over the first three years, what would he have gotten in 2021 and 2022, if it were a five-term package? It’s possible the Steelers wanted team-friendly terms in the outer years of the deal.

                    Regardless, Bell rejected the offer. And his goal continues to be to get to the open market healthy enough to cash in. He’ll need to cash in significantly, in order to get to where he’d been, if he’d accepted the team’s final offer.

                    Maybe he will. Maybe there’s a team out there that will pay him something more than anyone imagines. We’ll find out the answer come March 2019, assuming he gets his long-awaited chance to see what’s out there.

                    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/10/05/steelers-offered-leveon-bell-47-million-over-three-years/
                    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                    • Captain Lemming
                      Legend
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 16063

                      Originally posted by pittpete
                      If the above applied to Dizz and Slappy they would still be here.

                      You block people you don't agree with and now they are banned by the admin?

                      Heck I AGREE with you and 09 about Bell 100 percent. I never wanted even the one year tender.

                      But I crush it in debate, I don't fear the other side.

                      You wanna talk "winning an argument?"

                      Cute graphic but here is the TRUTH.

                      Truth is those with weak arguments fear the debate.

                      I await my own ban, I got no time to "tiptoe" my opinions to make sure they are "approved" even though I break no rules.
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                      In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                      TCFCLTC-
                      The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                      • Buzz
                        Legend
                        • Dec 2017
                        • 8405

                        Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                        Steelers offered Le’Veon Bell $47 million over three years

                        Posted by Mike Florio on October 5, 2018, 12:54 PM EDT

                        The window closed on the Steelers signing running back Le'Veon Bell to a long-term deal nearly three months ago. Before it closed, the Steelers were prepared to commit paying $47 million over three years to Bell, a league source tells PFT.

                        And as to the notion that only $10 million would have been fully guaranteed, at a time when the 2018 franchise tender for Bell is $14.54 million, the package included a $10 million roster bonus due not long after signing, making the practical guarantee $20 million. The Steelers would have avoided that payment only by cutting Bell within days after giving him $10 million to sign.

                        The cash flow beyond the initial $20 million still isn’t known, and neither is the amount that would have been guaranteed for injury only. Still, if Bell shows up for Week Seven and if he gets the full amount of his remaining franchise tender for 2018 (roughly $9 million), he’ll need to get $38 million over the first two years of a contract signed on the open market, in order to get to where he would have been — assuming that the Steelers would have kept him for three full years under the terms of the long-term deal.

                        The duration and structure of the contract beyond 2020 also would be a factor. If Bell had collected $47 million over the first three years, what would he have gotten in 2021 and 2022, if it were a five-term package? It’s possible the Steelers wanted team-friendly terms in the outer years of the deal.

                        Regardless, Bell rejected the offer. And his goal continues to be to get to the open market healthy enough to cash in. He’ll need to cash in significantly, in order to get to where he’d been, if he’d accepted the team’s final offer.

                        Maybe he will. Maybe there’s a team out there that will pay him something more than anyone imagines. We’ll find out the answer come March 2019, assuming he gets his long-awaited chance to see what’s out there.

                        https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/10/05/steelers-offered-leveon-bell-47-million-over-three-years/
                        Somewhere, Bell's momma is crying.

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                        • Ernie
                          Legend
                          • Aug 2013
                          • 8470

                          wow.........

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                          • Mr.wizard
                            Legend
                            • May 2014
                            • 6686

                            So If he would of made 47 million by 2021 but instead signs a year later he would have to make more to be at the same point by 2021, ya no sh*t.

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                            • Buzz
                              Legend
                              • Dec 2017
                              • 8405

                              Originally posted by Mr.wizard
                              So If he would of made 47 million by 2021 but instead signs a year later he would have to make more to be at the same point by 2021, ya no sh*t.
                              He'll have to make considerably more to make up for what he lost, and he'll be a year older.

                              I think Bell had been hitting the bong too much, or he would've taken this deal.

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                              • Mr.wizard
                                Legend
                                • May 2014
                                • 6686

                                Originally posted by Buzz
                                He'll have to make considerably more to make up for what he lost, and he'll be a year older.

                                I think Bell had been hitting the bong too much, or he would've taken this deal.
                                No, read it closely he doesn't have to make more to make up for loss, he has to make more to make the same amount over the same period. If is next contract is exactly the same as what the Steelers offered then he is ahead 9 million, his 3 year period just starts 1 year later.

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