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  • Buzz
    Legend
    • Dec 2017
    • 8379

    Steelers Red Zone Defense

    ...regressed more than any other in the NFL in 2017.

    http://www.steelersdepot.com/2018/05/steelers-red-zone-defense-had-worst-regression-in-2017/

    Turning that around will need to be a point of emphasis in 2018.
  • Slapstick
    Rookie
    • May 2008
    • 0

    #2
    I saw that as well.

    And, yes....
    Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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    • SanAntonioSteelerFan
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 8361

      #3
      Funny (to me anyway, ha ha) that it's the red zone that suffered the most when it was the deep backs
      more than any other position
      that were our Achilles Heel (I thought).

      Unless maybe a big part of our RZ decline happened after Shazier got injured?


      We got our "6-PACK" - time to work on a CASE!

      HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!

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      • Buzz
        Legend
        • Dec 2017
        • 8379

        #4
        Originally posted by SanAntonioSteelerFan
        Funny (to me anyway, ha ha) that it's the red zone that suffered the most when it was the deep backs
        more than any other position
        that were our Achilles Heel (I thought).

        Unless maybe a big part of our RZ decline happened after Shazier got injured?
        According to the article, the decline was especially bad after losing #50. We allowed opponents to score TDs on 17 out their 20 red zone trips in December and January.

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        • Steel Maniac
          Banned
          • Apr 2017
          • 19472

          #5
          Originally posted by Buzz
          According to the article, the decline was especially bad after losing #50. We allowed opponents to score TDs on 17 out their 20 red zone trips in December and January.
          Wow...

          And what did we add to try and fix that?

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          • RuthlessBurgher
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 33208

            #6
            Originally posted by Steel Maniac
            Wow...

            And what did we add to try and fix that?
            Jon Bostic, Morgan Burnett, Terrell Edmunds, Marcus Allen, Josh Frazier, improved play in year 2 from T.J. Watt, a healthier Stephon Tuitt....
            Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

            Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

            We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

            We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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            • Buzz
              Legend
              • Dec 2017
              • 8379

              #7
              Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
              Jon Bostic, Morgan Burnett, Terrell Edmunds, Marcus Allen, Josh Frazier, improved play in year 2 from T.J. Watt, a healthier Stephon Tuitt....
              Sounds good. However, it's unlikely that we get through the season without losing a player or two from our D due to injury, so my concern is with depth, especially at LB.

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              • Slapstick
                Rookie
                • May 2008
                • 0

                #8
                I think that the Steelers may believe that they have enough bodies at ILB...it will just be a matter of competition in camp and the preseason...there is depth, but it is so far untested...
                Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                • Buzz
                  Legend
                  • Dec 2017
                  • 8379

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Slapstick
                  I think that the Steelers may believe that they have enough bodies at ILB...it will just be a matter of competition in camp and the preseason...there is depth, but it is so far untested...
                  Bodies and depth are two different things. I'm sure we'll have enough bodies at LB to fill out the roster at the start of the season. But I don't care to see us repeat what happened last year -- having to bring bottom-of-the-barrel talent off the street to fill a starting role.

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                  • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 10281

                    #10
                    Last year we had the unfortunate circumstance of losing a pro-bowl player and his backup within just a few plays. Without the ability to see Matakevich as the starter at the end of the year and playoffs, we are no further in knowing what he is than we were heading into 2017.

                    The only two things we do know about the depth at ILB is that 1) Sean Spence is not an option and 2) The Steelers do not believe that LJ Fort is a viable option otherwise he would have been starting ahead of Spence.
                    http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...to_Mike/to.jpg

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                    • Buzz
                      Legend
                      • Dec 2017
                      • 8379

                      #11
                      Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                      Last year we had the unfortunate circumstance of losing a pro-bowl player and his backup within just a few plays. Without the ability to see Matakevich as the starter at the end of the year and playoffs, we are no further in knowing what he is than we were heading into 2017.

                      The only two things we do know about the depth at ILB is that 1) Sean Spence is not an option and 2) The Steelers do not believe that LJ Fort is a viable option otherwise he would have been starting ahead of Spence.
                      Exactly. Based on what we know, if Bostic goes down to injury, we may well be screwed.

                      I'm not thrilled about the depth at OLB, either. Maybe the rookie FA from Toledo will turn into something.

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                      • Northern_Blitz
                        Legend
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 24373

                        #12
                        Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                        The only two things we do know about the depth at ILB is that 1) Sean Spence is not an option and 2) The Steelers do not believe that LJ Fort is a viable option otherwise he would have been starting ahead of Spence.
                        I'm generally of the opinion that the Steelers FO doesn't make stupid decisions. But, I do not understand how they could put Fort on the roster and then start Spence when Shazier went down.

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                        • feltdizz
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 27531

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                          I'm generally of the opinion that the Steelers FO doesn't make stupid decisions. But, I do not understand how they could put Fort on the roster and then start Spence when Shazier went down.
                          I guess he didn't know the whole playbook

                          I like what I saw from Fort in limited action too.

                          We also didn't use Blount when we had him, didn't use Keion Lewis and cut JH a few times. We don't always get it right.
                          Steelers 27
                          Rats 16

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                          • Buzz
                            Legend
                            • Dec 2017
                            • 8379

                            #14
                            Originally posted by feltdizz
                            I guess he didn't know the whole playbook


                            Really? By December?

                            If that's the case, it doesn't reflect well on the player ... and probably not on the coaching staff, either.

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                            • feltdizz
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 27531

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Buzz
                              Really? By December?

                              If that's the case, it doesn't reflect well on the player ... and probably not on the coaching staff, either.
                              or he just isn’t who they thought he was...

                              pretty sure part part of the reason Antonio Brown didn’t dress a few games his first year was because he didn’t know the route tree as well as Sanders.

                              Its hard to believe Antonio Brown had 1 catch for -1 hard in the SB vs GB... and this was the same game Emmanuel Sanders went down with an injury.

                              Fort has been with 6 teams so far. Mostly as a LB/FB. I think he is the one of those guys who is a camp body but hasn’t put it together yet. Pretty sure it was his first year on an actual roster.

                              Maybe he is our next JH and breaks out this year?
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                              Rats 16

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