OT: Matt Patricia and his sexual assault allegation

[Slapstick]

Didn’t we just hire a coach who was on staff during the Sandusky incident at PSU?

I didnt hear anyone defending him on here.

Defending him why? For what someone else did?

Was he indicted? Arrested?

Nope...

Patricia was, however...

[feltdizz]

Defending him why? For what someone else did?

Was he indicted? Arrested?

Nope...

Patricia was, however...

maybe it was because he may have known and didn't make noise?

I think a lot of PSU folks back then knew and kept it o the hush for obvious reasons.

[Eddie Spaghetti]

i think bradley is a scumbag and mcquearys sworn testimony backs that up

why haven't schiano or bradley sued to clear their names if mcquearys accusations are false?

[SanAntonioSteelerFan]

i think bradley is a scumbag and mcquearys sworn testimony backs that up

why haven't schiano or bradley sued to clear their names if mcquearys accusations are false?

Link please, to anything supporting your assertions?

Thanks!

[Eddie Spaghetti]

all you have to do is Google tom bradley psu scandal. Washington post article

[Slapstick]

maybe it was because he may have known and didn't make noise?

I think a lot of PSU folks back then knew and kept it o the hush for obvious reasons.

It’s very easy to assume that people know more than they actually do about a co-worker. If a teacher has an inappropriate relationship with a student, do we hold the entire teaching staff accountable because they all must have known? If the principal DID know and covered it up, are all of the teachers to blame?

Because working under conditions where you are responsible for someone else’s wrong doing because you “must have known” is a $#!++¥ outlook...

[Eddie Spaghetti]

they have mcquearys sworn testimony

looks like squid was right about you defending anybody the steelers hire

[SanAntonioSteelerFan]

It’s very easy to assume that people know more than they actually do about a co-worker. If a teacher has an inappropriate relationship with a student, do we hold the entire teaching staff accountable because they all must have known? If the principal DID know and covered it up, are all of the teachers to blame?

Because working under conditions where you are responsible for someone else’s wrong doing because you “must have known” is a $#!++¥ outlook...

Take a look at this link

https://deadspin.com/mike-mcqueary-c...new-1783514641

, it's not the same situation as what you are describing. McQueary **testified** that Bradley said he knew, it's not someone painting everyone at Penn State with the same broad brush just because they were on the coaching staff.

Bradley denies all that McQueary reported, so there's no proof that he knew ... it's word against word.

Eddie Spaghetti brings up a good point ... why doesn't Bradley take McQueary to court for slander? I guess the answer is that it is unprovable either way ... no witnesses to the conversation, etc.

I see possible really bad badness down the road in terms of #metoo issues here, this is a potential huge PR timebomb waiting to explode. The FO is not stupid, they know all this back story ... I guess they think Bradley is going to be the 2nd coming of defensive backs coaches who will lead us to the promised land of Lombardi #7, because if I were advising them I'd say that would be the only reason to risk the PR disaster ... if even that.

[Slapstick]

they have mcquearys sworn testimony

looks like squid was right about you defending anybody the steelers hire

He needs defending?

If he had been indicted, like Patricia, then you might have a point...

Right now, you don’t...

[Slapstick]

Take a look at this link

https://deadspin.com/mike-mcqueary-c...new-1783514641

, it's not the same situation as what you are describing. McQueary **testified** that Bradley said he knew, it's not someone painting everyone at Penn State with the same broad brush just because they were on the coaching staff.

Bradley denies all that McQueary reported, so there's no proof that he knew ... it's word against word.

Eddie Spaghetti brings up a good point ... why doesn't Bradley take McQueary to court for slander? I guess the answer is that it is unprovable either way ... no witnesses to the conversation, etc.

I see possible really bad badness down the road in terms of #metoo issues here, this is a potential huge PR timebomb waiting to explode. The FO is not stupid, they know all this back story ... I guess they think Bradley is going to be the 2nd coming of defensive backs coaches who will lead us to the promised land of Lombardi #7, because if I were advising them I'd say that would be the only reason to risk the PR disaster ... if even that.

Well, I can at least tell you why I think Bradley didn’t take McQueary to court for slander or defamation:

I’m pretty sure that you have to prove that you were damaged by the accusation...

Bradley resigned from Penn State to work in television for two years before coming back to coaching as WVU’s Assistant Head Coach...he has been employed ever since...

It doesn’t seem like he was damaged very much by the accusations...nor did the accusations stop people from hiring him...

[Eddie Spaghetti]

do Greg schiano next

I guess bradley is just fine with mcQueary swearing under oath that he protected a child molester since he continued to get jobs

you are thick as a brick

[Slapstick]

do Greg schiano next

I guess bradley is just fine with mcQueary swearing under oath that he protected a child molester since he continued to get jobs

you are thick as a brick

And you are clueless about how the legal system works....

Is he okay with it? I would imagine he isn’t....

Can he prove that the accusations were damaging to him? How was he damaged, other than hurt feelings? People on the internet talking $#!+ about him?

One of us is thick, but it isn’t me...

[SanAntonioSteelerFan]

I wonder if the fact that it was sworn testimony offered only because he was forced to answer questions by the law means it's protected, in the sense that it can't also be slander?

[Eddie Spaghetti]

or more likely he isn't suing because he doesn't want to get deposed and be put under oath

schiano was certainly damaged as it cost him the Tenn job and still no lawsuit for defamation

I wonder why

[SanAntonioSteelerFan]

Raises the question why law enforcement didn't go after Bradley and Schiano for covering up a crime, etc. I'd guess if they thought McQueary could be proved to be telling the truth they would have. Maybe we can infer they thought he *wasn't* telling the truth?

I'm still surprised the Steeler FO "went there".

BTW - one thing I read said that the person accused by the slanderer didn't have to prove damage if the slander were related to sexual misconduct ... it was presumed per se defamatory.

Yeah, under those circumstances, gotta wonder why they didn't go after McQueary for slander. Again though, it was one guy's word against another, probably unprovable, and therefore a waste of time ... the headlines would say, "Bradley loses ... McQueary's accusations stand". I could see wanting to avoid that.