A $100 million contract for Bell would infuriate most, but should it? Hear me out...

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  • feltdizz
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    • May 2008
    • 27531

    #46
    Originally posted by Shawn
    After Ben retires, I'm all for an 0-16 season...unless we grab Action Jackson in this years draft.
    yuck, nah.. that means we will need like 3 years to get back to form.

    The more I think about it I hope we have some Kordell Stewart years where we are still fun to watch.
    Steelers 27
    Rats 16

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    • RuthlessBurgher
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      • May 2008
      • 33208

      #47
      Originally posted by Shawn
      After Ben retires, I'm all for an 0-16 season...unless we grab Action Jackson in this years draft.
      I dunno, man...Carl Weathers is getting pretty old. Maybe we can get Michael B. Jordan to play Action Jackson Jr. like he did in "Creed."
      Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

      Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

      We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

      We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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      • squidkid
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        • Feb 2012
        • 5847

        #48
        as long as we have tomlin we will never have any down years
        steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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        • Northern_Blitz
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          • Dec 2008
          • 24373

          #49
          Originally posted by feltdizz
          I could see us being strong on D and pretty average on offense once Ben retires. However, i could just as well see us 9-7 due to the way our FO operates. I think we can go all in and still be respectable once Ben is done.
          I think that this is what they will do. I think that the Rooney's have always tried to field a competitive team over my lifetime (I wasn't around until 1979, so I missed the worst years of this team). I think it's reasonable to fear that going full tank will turn you into Cleveland.

          I think that the Sabers are the best example of this in sports (or maybe the Oilers). I think that you can tank too hard and screw up your long term future.

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          • Steel Maniac
            Banned
            • Apr 2017
            • 19472

            #50
            Originally posted by squidkid
            as long as we have tomlin we will never have any down years
            See????????????????????????????? And you guys said that Squid couldn't say anything good about Tomlin. LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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            • squidkid
              Legend
              • Feb 2012
              • 5847

              #51
              Originally posted by Steel Maniac
              See????????????????????????????? And you guys said that Squid couldn't say anything good about Tomlin. LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

              im a real fan now................(dont want another 2 day rant discussing the squid and his fandom.......lol)_
              steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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              • pittpete
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                • Aug 2008
                • 6825

                #52
                BREAKING NEWS......Bell wants QB $$$$ now
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                • SanAntonioSteelerFan
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                  • May 2008
                  • 8361

                  #53
                  Originally posted by pittpete
                  BREAKING NEWS......Bell wants QB $$$$ now

                  Haha!

                  LJ $$ ... deal!


                  We got our "6-PACK" - time to work on a CASE!

                  HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!

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                  • Captain Lemming
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                    • Jun 2008
                    • 16041

                    #54
                    IMO it's not how we do business in FA. Sure, if a gem gets released AFTER the draft, maybe we make a move but we aren't first day players
                    True.....doesnt mean we should never do it.

                    AND even with Bell on the roster we can structure a contract to get anyone within reason that we really want.
                    "Anyone" and "within reason" are mutually exclusive concepts in this context. Without Bell we can sign ANYONE without qualifiers.

                    I just don't buy this hand tying some are suggesting if we pay Bell long term.
                    15 million a season that is unavailable to spend elsewhere......that IS hand tying Dizz. You admit it when using the "within reason" (AKA "cheap") as a qualifier.

                    I'm also not a big fan of going all in on FA to build your team.
                    Nobody is suggesting THAT. A rare dip into the elite FA pool to patch holes is all I suggest.

                    What are we the Redskins now? No, draft players and keep drafting players and add depth or 1 key FA if it makes sense.
                    Only difference is that my suggestion means that "key free agent" need not come from the bargain bin.

                    You guys act like all of our FA signings work out and that's not the case.
                    Please see my last comment to see why many of our free agents are garbage.
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                    In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                    TCFCLTC-
                    The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                    • Slapstick
                      Rookie
                      • May 2008
                      • 0

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                      See????????????????????????????? And you guys said that Squid couldn't say anything good about Tomlin. LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                      Yeah, that’s one of the only accurate things he’s said in the past 11 years...bully for him...our boy is finally growing up...
                      Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                      • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
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                        • May 2008
                        • 10281

                        #56
                        This is why I don't see it happening. I'll use the example of Alan Faneca but the numbers will be off because I'm too lazy to look it up.

                        Back when Faneca's contract was about to expire, he and Steve Hutchinson were easily considered the best two guards in the game. The Steelers offered him a deal in the $6M per year range. Then, as FA came in his final year, the Bills and Browns signed two lesser guards to $7M per year contracts (I believe it was Steinbach and Dockery). If those two guys were worth $7M per, then Faneca determined that he was now worth much more. The Steelers had already determined what Faneca was worth to them, and it was not based on those two contracts. They would not let the Buffalo Bills and Cleveland Browns determine how much they should pay Alan Faneca. They let Faneca leave.

                        It has now been two off-seasons for Bell. I believe that the Steelers have determined the value that Bell has for them. I sincerely doubt that at this point they are holding back that number, Bell's side should know how high the Steelers are willing to go. Bell has determined his number at this point as well. The Steelers will not let Leveon Bell decide on his own what the Steelers should pay.

                        Any option like hiding dummy years etc. have certainly been brought up at this point and one of the two sides has rejected...otherwise it would have been done by now.
                        http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...to_Mike/to.jpg

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                        • Steel Maniac
                          Banned
                          • Apr 2017
                          • 19472

                          #57
                          With that said, Colbert and company are trying to determine which college rb to target to be Bell’s replacement. Whoever they choose, I’m on board with.

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                          • Ernie
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                            • Aug 2013
                            • 8470

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                            With that said, Colbert and company are trying to determine which college rb to target to be Bell’s replacement. Whoever they choose, I’m on board with.
                            This is where im at right now... and besides, its not like the cupboard is empty. Conner showed us enough last year in limited play... he can be help fill the void. Let's get an early round RB and roll.

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                            • Shoe
                              Hall of Famer
                              • May 2008
                              • 4044

                              #59
                              Originally posted by feltdizz
                              Not sure if he is more valuable but I think he makes AB’s job A LOT easier when he is on the field.

                              The ability to split out wide and play 3 downs really creates a mismatch. Jack Ham and Bettis were very candid about how special Bell is to our offense. Ham flat out said there is nothing he could do to stop Bell in the passing game if he played against him.



                              Bell isn’t just running wheel routes and screens.
                              I'm curious how accurate this actually is. I watch all the games like you all... Overwhelmingly, his passes come from dump offs and screens; I don't recall too many he catches out of the slot.

                              They like to say he does that, but the only highlight they show is that slant he caught on (I think) DAL two years ago as an example (of his WR skills).
                              I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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                              • Slapstick
                                Rookie
                                • May 2008
                                • 0

                                #60
                                I believe for his TD reception against Jacksonville in the playoffs, he lined up at WR...
                                Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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