Vegas called in the Eagles win

[Sword]

There was two TD's the Eagles got that shouldn't have counted......

1) The receiver clearly bobbled the ball going out of bounds and didn't have two feet in....
2) No way that tight End TD was a catch and ours wasn't...WTF ......

If there is anything going on I would first believe, it's related to Vegas and gambling.....

[squidkid]

listen, there was no way the nfl wasnt going to do all they could to let the pats win.........if they overruled that td, it would have been waaaaaay too obvious

[Slapstick]

Yes, I do agree that Ertz’ TD was no more or less a TD than James’...

They were both clearly TDs...

[feltdizz]

While I believe they were both TD's I think the Ertz TD was slightly different because he took 3 steps. That being said, I'm pretty sure someone showed a replay were a guy took 3 or 4 steps and lost the ball when he went to the ground and they called it an incompletion.

I listened to a Goodell interview on the radio before the game and they asked him "whats a catch?" and he laughed for 30 seconds. I think it's clear they have a PR problem with what is a catch but it's also good for the NFL to have the power to change the outcome of games during the regular season.

[Sword]

One more thing.....not that it would have Changed anything.....


Why didn't Philly get flagged for pass interference on the final play of the game, Hogan got Clocked.....?
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/look-refs-appear-to-miss-pass-interference-call-on-super-bowl-hail-mary/

[AzStillers1989]

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[Steel Maniac]

listen, there was no way the nfl wasnt going to do all they could to let the pats win.........if they overruled that td, it would have been waaaaaay too obvious

Yep..way too obvious. They wanted to overule it thou. LOL

[Steel Maniac]

Yes, I do agree that Ertz’ TD was no more or less a TD than James’...

They were both clearly TDs...

Totally agree. There was no difference in what Ertz did to what JJ did. Both made football moves after catching the ball to score.

[feltdizz]

One more thing.....not that it would have Changed anything.....


Why didn't Philly get flagged for pass interference on the final play of the game, Hogan got Clocked.....?
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/look-refs-appear-to-miss-pass-interference-call-on-super-bowl-hail-mary/

because it was a hail mary play and they rarely call PI on that play.

and honestly, I think the refs let both teams get away with some physical play by the DB's.

I kept hearing about this play but I thought it was going to be much worse.

[Northern_Blitz]

Yes, I do agree that Ertz’ TD was no more or less a TD than James’...

They were both clearly TDs...

Here is the difference. It's pretty straight forward and in line with the rule (which in my oppinion is imperfect but >>>>>> than the old rule).

James: (1) dove, (2) "caught" the ball, (3) bobbled it when he hit the ground.
Ertz: (1) "Caught" the ball, (2) dove, (3) bobbled it when he hit the ground.

Because Ertz had possession before he started going to the ground, the bobble is a fumble. But, a fumble doesn't matter once you break the plane.

Because James started going to the ground before he "caught" the ball, he can't drop it when he hits the ground. The bobble means that he never had possession. If he never had possession, he can't score a TD.

[Steel Maniac]

I don't see it that way. I say james turned and lunged for the goal line and a lung is as good as taking a couple of steps because both are football moves made AFTER you catch the ball.

Your punishing a guy because he was closer to the goal line then the other. That's night right just in that context.

[Disco1981]

One more thing.....not that it would have Changed anything.....


Why didn't Philly get flagged for pass interference on the final play of the game, Hogan got Clocked.....?
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/look-refs-appear-to-miss-pass-interference-call-on-super-bowl-hail-mary/

I commented on thison another thread...I saw it during the 1st replay...The Eagles are so lucky...And that was stupid!

[feltdizz]

I don't see it that way. I say james turned and lunged for the goal line and a lung is as good as taking a couple of steps because both are football moves made AFTER you catch the ball.

Your punishing a guy because he was closer to the goal line then the other. That's night right just in that context.

while I think both were catches.. lunging definitely isn't the same as taking 3 steps.

both were TD's IMO.

[Shawn]

I knew it was a catch when I seen it. The difference in James and Ertz is that Ertz was a runner and James was in the process of the catch. You only have to break the goal line if you are runner. Doesn't matter if you fumble after. James on the other hand was still in the process of the catch and clearly didn't make the catch because you can't use the ground to secure the ball. The refs got both calls right. Why can't people accept that?

[Steel Maniac]

For ertz to score, he had to take steps to get th the goal line.
For JJ to score, all he had to do was lung (reach out).

Both are football moves. Meaning you had to have possession to do them. In the context of where each TE was on the field when they made their play, I think both are the same.