Ben says-------

[Disco1981]

Bens full of s@%& imo...Cmon, He has the right, and does...Change plays all the time...He could have a call with the o-line that " We're doing this, when I do this"...He is always very coy at getting subtle digs in saying, " Just doing what they tell me "...His way of throwing coaches/ teammates under the bus, Without actually not saying it

[Slapstick]

I didn’t say we could win it all. I said we could win without him. We are obviously better with him but it’s not crazy to think this franchise can’t win games without Ben.

I don’t think we turn into the Colts without Manning.

what I don’t like about Ben is ugly Ben on the road and this whole “coaches won’t allow me to run a QB sneak” nonsense.

I truly believe this QB sneak nonsense is some passive aggressive junk aimed at Haley and Tomlin. I just read an article where Ben said he wanted to add a QB draw but Tomlin shot it down. Seriously. Wtf does a draw have to do with a sneak and I don’t buy that he has to get permission to call a QB sneak. Tap Pouncey in the ass and go get it. I’ve seen other QB’s run it this way and it usually catches the D off guard because only the center moves.

We used to call it “goosing” the center...

[Disco1981]

We used to call it “goosing” the center...

Absolutely..Hate to bring up Marsha and the Cheatriots BUT...EVERY single time ( It seems ) Where they have a 4th, and less than a yard, Marsha doesn't even look to the sidelines...He runs up, line gets set for 1 second, and they hike the ball, and make it...Ben is way bigger, This should be the ONLY option...EVERY TIME...And , more often than not...The Cheats also get the opposing team to use a TO, Because they are not set, Or have the wrong personell in...Then STILL end up getting the first!

[Slapstick]

Absolutely..Hate to bring up Marsha and the Cheatriots BUT...EVERY single time ( It seems ) Where they have a 4th, and less than a yard, Marsha doesn't even look to the sidelines...He runs up, line gets set for 1 second, and they hike the ball, and make it...Ben is way bigger, This should be the ONLY option...EVERY TIME...And , more often than not...The Cheats also get the opposing team to use a TO, Because they are not set, Or have the wrong personell in...Then STILL end up getting the first!

Yep. Hell, in high school our QB was given the green light to goose the center anytime the center was uncovered...

[Northern_Blitz]

Nothing wrong with setting the bar high fellas.

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Unless it leads you to kill the golden goose (i.e. fire everyone good in knee jerk emotional over-reactions).

[Northern_Blitz]

Absolutely..Hate to bring up Marsha and the Cheatriots BUT...EVERY single time ( It seems ) Where they have a 4th, and less than a yard, Marsha doesn't even look to the sidelines...He runs up, line gets set for 1 second, and they hike the ball, and make it...Ben is way bigger, This should be the ONLY option...EVERY TIME...And , more often than not...The Cheats also get the opposing team to use a TO, Because they are not set, Or have the wrong personell in...Then STILL end up getting the first!

I agree that we should have 1 to 3 no-huddle options for 4th and <1. QB sneak should be among those options and called the most often.

[Ernie]

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Unless it leads you to kill the golden goose (i.e. fire everyone good in knee jerk emotional over-reactions).

I'm not suggesting that at all. I want to see the problem/s fixed, some of which are reoccurring.

[Slapstick]

I'm not suggesting that at all. I want to see the problem/s fixed, some of which are reoccurring.

YOU are not suggesting that....some others are...