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  • Slapstick
    Rookie
    • May 2008
    • 0

    I Keep Seeing Haley’s Name...

    ...pop up in discussion of impending head coaching vacancies in the NFL. So, I did some research...

    My best guess for a landing spot, if it were to happen, is:

    Indianapolis

    When Haley came to Pittsburgh, the mandate was to design an offense to protect Ben Roethlisberger. This is largely been successful, as the sack totals have decreased over the last six seasons. The Colts have a franchise QB who needs protection. If Luck can’t come back, the Colts have locked in a top 5 draft pick to choose another highly rated QB prospect. The Colts will look to protect their investment.

    Also, the Colts’ GM, Chris Ballard, spent more than a decade in the Chicago Bears organization, three of them were years when Todd Haley was the wide receivers coach in Chicago, so there is probably some familiarity there.

    When Chuck Pagano gets the axe, I think Haley could step right in. And, to top it off, I think he could very well hire Dick LeBeau as his defensive coordinator. I don’t think the Titans are making the playoffs. If they can’t beat the Jaguars, I think that their coaching staff will be let go. Indianapolis is only a 2 hour drive from LeBeau’s family in the Cincinnati area.

    Who then would replace Haley? I think that Tomlin will (finally) promote Fichtner. It may convince Ben to stay a little longer and will preserve the continuity that Tomlin seems to love.

    To replace Fichtner, Tomlin hires Jim Caldwell, who will probably be fired in Detroit. Caldwell was the QB coach and OC in Baltimore when they won the Super Bowl a few years ago.

    Then, Tomlin will have to deal with the retirement of WR coach Richard Mann, and possibly John Mitchell as well. For Mann, I think Tomlin hires Clyde Christensen, who also worked with him in Tampa. Christensen is probably on his way out as OC in Miami (now that Mike McCoy is available).

    If Coach Mitch finally decides to retire, I think Tomlin calls Karl Dunbar, currently the defensive line coach of the Alabama Crimson Tide. Dunbar was also the defensive line coach for the Minnesota Vikings when Tomlin was the defensive coordinator. Their defensive line had the “Williams Wall” and finished at the top of the NFL in rush defense.

    I might be biased, but I think that coaches always love to work with players who are considered among the best at their respective positions (Roethlisberger, Antonio Brown, and Cameron Heyward).

    I probably think about this stuff too much...
    Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.
  • Ernie
    Legend
    • Aug 2013
    • 8470

    #2
    Originally posted by Slapstick
    ...pop up in discussion of impending head coaching vacancies in the NFL. So, I did some research...

    My best guess for a landing spot, if it were to happen, is:

    Indianapolis

    When Haley came to Pittsburgh, the mandate was to design an offense to protect Ben Roethlisberger. This is largely been successful, as the sack totals have decreased over the last six seasons. The Colts have a franchise QB who needs protection. If Luck can’t come back, the Colts have locked in a top 5 draft pick to choose another highly rated QB prospect. The Colts will look to protect their investment.

    Also, the Colts’ GM, Chris Ballard, spent more than a decade in the Chicago Bears organization, three of them were years when Todd Haley was the wide receivers coach in Chicago, so there is probably some familiarity there.

    When Chuck Pagano gets the axe, I think Haley could step right in. And, to top it off, I think he could very well hire Dick LeBeau as his defensive coordinator. I don’t think the Titans are making the playoffs. If they can’t beat the Jaguars, I think that their coaching staff will be let go. Indianapolis is only a 2 hour drive from LeBeau’s family in the Cincinnati area.

    Who then would replace Haley? I think that Tomlin will (finally) promote Fichtner. It may convince Ben to stay a little longer and will preserve the continuity that Tomlin seems to love.

    To replace Fichtner, Tomlin hires Jim Caldwell, who will probably be fired in Detroit. Caldwell was the QB coach and OC in Baltimore when they won the Super Bowl a few years ago.

    Then, Tomlin will have to deal with the retirement of WR coach Richard Mann, and possibly John Mitchell as well. For Mann, I think Tomlin hires Clyde Christensen, who also worked with him in Tampa. Christensen is probably on his way out as OC in Miami (now that Mike McCoy is available).

    If Coach Mitch finally decides to retire, I think Tomlin calls Karl Dunbar, currently the defensive line coach of the Alabama Crimson Tide. Dunbar was also the defensive line coach for the Minnesota Vikings when Tomlin was the defensive coordinator. Their defensive line had the “Williams Wall” and finished at the top of the NFL in rush defense.

    I might be biased, but I think that coaches always love to work with players who are considered among the best at their respective positions (Roethlisberger, Antonio Brown, and Cameron Heyward).

    I probably think about this stuff too much...
    Interesting read Slappy. Only thing I think you are missing is that WHEN we win the SB... Ben is going to ride off into the sunset like Bettis.

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    • Steel Maniac
      Banned
      • Apr 2017
      • 19472

      #3
      Bye Haley.

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      • Steelhere10
        Hall of Famer
        • May 2008
        • 3849

        #4
        Haley should be gone regardless, if your Hall of Fame Qb ask for a buffer, that is all anyone should know.
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        • Slapstick
          Rookie
          • May 2008
          • 0

          #5
          Originally posted by Ernie
          Interesting read Slappy. Only thing I think you are missing is that WHEN we win the SB... Ben is going to ride off into the sunset like Bettis.
          That creates its own set of issues, if that happens...if Ben leaves, that will leave the Steelers with $12.4 million in dead cap money. I suppose that the team could try to reclaim some of that signing bonus, but I can’t see that happening. Perhaps they could designate him a post June 1st cut/retirement to save some cap space...

          In that case, if we have a Super Bowl caliber roster, I might make a play for Eli Manning. I don’t know what his status is in NY after the firing of Ben McAdoo, but he may be available. The Giants and Steelers are literally family and have been active trading partners in the past. Eli has a “no trade” clause in his contract, but I’m sure he’d approve a trade to hand the ball off to Le’Veon Bell and throw it to Antonio Brown...

          So, instead of Caldwell, perhaps Tomlin hires Pittsburgh native Frank Cignetti, Jr., who is currently Manning’s QB coach...or Mike Sullivan who is Manning’s OC and former QB coach...

          Who knows?
          Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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          • Ernie
            Legend
            • Aug 2013
            • 8470

            #6
            Originally posted by Slapstick
            That creates its own set of issues, if that happens...if Ben leaves, that will leave the Steelers with $12.4 million in dead cap money. I suppose that the team could try to reclaim some of that signing bonus, but I can’t see that happening. Perhaps they could designate him a post June 1st cut/retirement to save some cap space...

            In that case, if we have a Super Bowl caliber roster, I might make a play for Eli Manning. I don’t know what his status is in NY after the firing of Ben McAdoo, but he may be available. The Giants and Steelers are literally family and have been active trading partners in the past. Eli has a “no trade” clause in his contract, but I’m sure he’d approve a trade to hand the ball off to Le’Veon Bell and throw it to Antonio Brown...

            So, instead of Caldwell, perhaps Tomlin hires Pittsburgh native Frank Cignetti, Jr., who is currently Manning’s QB coach...or Mike Sullivan who is Manning’s OC and former QB coach...

            Who knows?
            Would hate to see Ben go, but Id be okay if that happens. We need to address QB1 one way or another.

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            • Starlifter
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 5078

              #7
              I believe tomlin and caldwell were both on the staff at tampa - so there's some history there.
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              • Slapstick
                Rookie
                • May 2008
                • 0

                #8
                Originally posted by Starlifter
                I believe tomlin and caldwell were both on the staff at tampa - so there's some history there.
                Along with Christensen, as well.
                Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                • Sugar
                  Hall of Famer
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 3700

                  #9
                  There could be a lot of openings out there. What if some team wanted to hire the guy that revamped the vaunted Steelers Defense? Say, Haley and Butler get hired away. At the same time Mann and Mitchell retire along with Ben. Talk about rebuilding project!! BTW- I could see this happening even if they don't even make the Super Bowl.

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                  • Slapstick
                    Rookie
                    • May 2008
                    • 0

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Sugar
                    There could be a lot of openings out there. What if some team wanted to hire the guy that revamped the vaunted Steelers Defense? Say, Haley and Butler get hired away. At the same time Mann and Mitchell retire along with Ben. Talk about rebuilding project!! BTW- I could see this happening even if they don't even make the Super Bowl.
                    Butler, too? Dang...
                    Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                    • SidSmythe
                      Hall of Famer
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 4708

                      #11
                      What would the Steelers do if BEN decided he would retire if HALEY stayed the O.C.??
                      After winning the Superbowl?
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                      • Slapstick
                        Rookie
                        • May 2008
                        • 0

                        #12
                        Dump Haley, of course. Good OCs are easier to find than franchise QBs.
                        Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                        • Ernie
                          Legend
                          • Aug 2013
                          • 8470

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Slapstick
                          Dump Haley, of course. Good OCs are easier to find than franchise QBs.
                          Look for Haley to be in the running for the bears or colts HC job.

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                          • Steel Maniac
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2017
                            • 19472

                            #14
                            I want Haley gone regardless. It’s time.

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                            • fordfixer
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                              • May 2008
                              • 10921

                              #15
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