Bryant not playing in Detroit Game...

[Sword]

so, is Tomlin getting tougher on players?.....I actually like this..Tells the other players to watch it on social media.....
Would like Tomlin to be more pro Active in this and other things so we don't get to this point.....
http://www.steelers.com/news/article-4/Bryant-will-not-play-Sunday/96441bb4-20cf-41ba-8749-bc17b475470e

[Oviedo]

I don't think Tomlin has ever not been tough on players. Just because he isn't a slobbering screamer like Cowher has nothing to do with being tough or effective. The best and most respected leaders I've ever seen have been subtle and firm

As far as "proactive" I'm sure that there is lots neither of us or the public are privy to. It quite frankly isn't our business

[feltdizz]

so, is Tomlin getting tougher on players?.....I actually like this..Tells the other players to watch it on social media.....
Would like Tomlin to be more pro Active in this and other things so we don't get to this point.....
http://www.steelers.com/news/article-4/Bryant-will-not-play-Sunday/96441bb4-20cf-41ba-8749-bc17b475470e

no.. I just think Tomlin is tired of a guy who missed all of last year yapping about wanting to be traded.

[Steelhere10]

Let me shut this theory down before Squid and other Tomlin haters aproach. Cowher was no tougher than Tomlin from those that watched both coaches or from those that have their agenda. Because if he was Joey Porter would've got discipline several times for
Fighting Green and getting ejected before a Btowns game, going on the Ravens team bus.
Hines calling out Ben
Or the unnecessary roughness penalties he vowed would never happen again only to continue for weeks after.

[Steelhere10]

As a matter of fact I think it's the opposite. This is the 4th time that a player have been demoted under Tomlin that I recall and I can't think of any under Cowher.

[flippy]

Let me shut this theory down before Squid and other Tomlin haters aproach. Cowher was no tougher than Tomlin from those that watched both coaches or from those that have their agenda. Because if he was Joey Porter would've got discipline several times for
Fighting Green and getting ejected before a Btowns game, going on the Ravens team bus.
Hines calling out Ben
Or the unnecessary roughness penalties he vowed would never happen again only to continue for weeks after.

Judging any coach's approach based on a single interaction is tough because every player is different. And I want to see my coaches treat guys as individuals and have different rules for different people. Being a strong disciplinarian works for some guys but not others. A good coach knows what motivates each individual and should be adaptable.

It's not really fair for us to judge MB on one incident that we see when we don't see his entire body of interactions in his day to day life. What do we really know about him? For all we know, he's the hardest working and most dedicated guy on the team. Or he did something else that we don't know that's the reason Tomlin is disciplining him.

It's hard to compare Tomlin to Cowher or even other coaches like Marv Lewis for that matter. For all we know Lewis is the biggest disciplinarian in the league but he's dealing with the biggest pile of crap in terms of players? Leading people is just plain hard. And everyone messes it up for the most part. Just look at parenting which is the closest similar situation that most experience. Everyone is a bad parent most of the time. And most have their moments of clarity where they do something very positive. But the amount people spend on mental health issues tells me for the most part, everyone gets it wrong. Just like most coaching isn't perfect. Everyone does the best they can.

[Steelhere10]

Judging any coach's approach based on a single interaction is tough because every player is different. And I want to see my coaches treat guys as individuals and have different rules for different people. Being a strong disciplinarian works for some guys but not others. A good coach knows what motivates each individual and should be adaptable.

It's not really fair for us to judge MB on one incident that we see when we don't see his entire body of interactions in his day to day life. What do we really know about him? For all we know, he's the hardest working and most dedicated guy on the team. Or he did something else that we don't know that's the reason Tomlin is disciplining him.

It's hard to compare Tomlin to Cowher or even other coaches like Marv Lewis for that matter. For all we know Lewis is the biggest disciplinarian in the league but he's dealing with the biggest pile of crap in terms of players? Leading people is just plain hard. And everyone messes it up for the most part. Just look at parenting which is the closest similar situation that most experience. Everyone is a bad parent most of the time. And most have their moments of clarity where they do something very positive. But the amount people spend on mental health issues tells me for the most part, everyone gets it wrong. Just like most coaching isn't perfect. Everyone does the best they can.

I don't disagree at all, but is a myth out there that Cowher was so tough on players and Tomlin let them get away with murder.

[fordfixer]

I don't disagree at all, but is a myth out there that Cowher was so tough on players and Tomlin let them get away with murder.

That was the Ratbirds Coach

[SanAntonioSteelerFan]

That was the Ratbirds Coach

Ding ding ding ... we have a winnah!!!

[feltdizz]

I don't disagree at all, but is a myth out there that Cowher was so tough on players and Tomlin let them get away with murder.

One time a player told a friend of mine the yelling and spitting was scary at first.. but then players realized it was all for show and they would just tune him out.

The spitting was disgusting though.

[Eich]

I watched a piece on NFL network the other night and Jimmy Johnson was the focus. He had a great answer to someone asking if he treats all his players the same. I think most good coaches are similar. He said that he treats everyone on the same SCALE:

-If you're a really good player that practices really hard and does what he asks, then he treats those players a certain way. Consistently.

-On the opposite end of the scale, if you're an average or below average player, who doesn't do what he asks, then he treats those players a certain way. Consistently.

He gave an example. Some relative no-name, who wasn't all that great of a player, fell asleep in a meeting. Johnson was pissed off and told the guy he was cut, immediately. The guy never played football again. A reporter asked Johnson if he'd do the same thing to Troy Aikman if he fell asleep. Johnson said, of course not. He'd walk over to Troy and tell him to wake up and pay attention.

I think Tomlin applies right corrective action, given the player and situation. He didn't bench AB for his live Facebook feed. But Martavis is a completely different story.

[MCHammer]

As far as "proactive" I'm sure that there is lots neither of us or the public are privy to. It quite frankly isn't our business

I'm not sure I understand the "not our business" angle. He is the coach and an employee of the Steelers. Part of that job is answering questions when players act like idiots. I'm not saying we, as fans, are entitled to know everything that goes on. But that does not mean team discipline is none of our business either. This is not a private school. It is an NFL sports team and Tomlin is a very public figure. Steeler fans have every right to question these things. Tomlin can be as open or closed about as he wants and/or management allows.

[Captain Lemming]

no.. I just think Tomlin is tired of a guy who missed all of last year yapping about wanting to be traded.

We have a winner here.
Frankly, it seems Tomlin is angry at MB personally.

It's like he feels like, "what a stinkin ingrate after we kept giving you second chances".

I dont even know if it is "discipline" versus just being irked at MB. I dont blame him.