Going forward, What is would be our plan to get a new Francise QB?

[Steel Maniac]

We are always in the middle or at the bottom of the first round. Not a favorable place to find a franchise QB. So next draft, how do we go about this? Are we just going to be in limbo and go all in on Dobbs first?

How would you go about finding our new franchise QB?

[Eddie Spaghetti]

i dont think there is an easy answer to this, though i do not believe for a second that dobbs is the answer

this is a deep class, if somebody you like falls within striking distance, make a move to get him i guess

[squidkid]

lots on here were proclaiming laundry to be the next franchise qb. some said he would be so good in year 3 that we would be able to trade ben for multiple first round picks.
we should try that

[squidkid]

Fire Haley before you draft Ben's successor.

I wouldn't let him run the cafeteria much less have input in that decision.

and who has the power to do that?

[Ernie]

For the money we have tied up in Ben this year, we could go after Kirk Cousins. The FO and Tomlin really liked him coming out of college.

[Terrapin]

1. Fire Todd Haley. If this team implodes, fire Tomlin too.
2. Talk Ben into playing one more year.
3. If Ben retires, bring in a vet to start next season.
4. Draft a QB in 1st rd. Move up if necessary.
5. Prepare for 2-3 years of average to below average football.
6. Continue to question why they haven't seriously addressed this in the last 3 years.

[Ernie]

I've questioned #6 all along. and the others seem like fair statements. I think 5 is a possibility, but not inevitable if we can get a solid vet or a rook who is ready to step in and play. Most of the other pieces are in place to compete at a high level.
I believe Ben is done. I just don't see a scenario in which he stays.

[Terrapin]

I've questioned #6 all along. and the others seem like fair statements. I think 5 is a possibility, but not inevitable if we can get a solid vet or a rook who is ready to step in and play. Most of the other pieces are in place to compete at a high level.
I believe Ben is done. I just don't see a scenario in which he stays.

I don't see him staying either. He talked a lot about that CTE study or whatever that came out a few months ago. He's old and breaking down. And I'm sure he feels like his last chances of winning a SB are being wasted by moronic coaches, ego maniac teammates, and stupid garbage like protests, holdouts, suspensions, etc.

[Eddie Spaghetti]

i dont think anyone thought bens dramatic decline, if thats what this is would happen so sharply

have they held onto a bum like landry jones too long, certainly. but to get a franchise QB history says you almost have to take one in the 1st and i just dont believe that would have been wise where this team was the last 2-3 years. IMO, last year was the 1st time you could have been proactive and taken a QB in the first. the recipe that has seemed to be the most successful is to hit on that QB and reap the benefits of the cheap rookie contract. drafting someone and letting them sit for 3 years and then paying top $$ if you hit on him just doesnt seem like good strategy, imo

the only person i remember talking about it was shawn who advocated taking mahonnes last year and he was roundly mocked by most here.

[Ernie]

I don't see him staying either. He talked a lot about that CTE study or whatever that came out a few months ago. He's old and breaking down. And I'm sure he feels like his last chances of winning a SB are being wasted by moronic coaches, ego maniac teammates, and stupid garbage like protests, holdouts, suspensions, etc.

Very interesting points. Related to the CTE study, I believe his wife has really been hammering him on this (and rightfully so). The other items mentioned have to be weighing on him also.

[Ernie]

i dont think anyone thought bens dramatic decline, if thats what this is would happen so sharply

have they held onto a bum like landry jones too long, certainly. but to get a franchise QB history says you almost have to take one in the 1st and i just dont believe that would have been wise where this team was the last 2-3 years. IMO, last year was the 1st time you could have been proactive and taken a QB in the first. the recipe that has seemed to be the most successful is to hit on that QB and reap the benefits of the cheap rookie contract. drafting someone and letting them sit for 3 years and then paying top $$ if you hit on him just doesnt seem like good strategy, imo

the only person i remember talking about it was shawn who advocated taking mahonnes last year and he was roundly mocked by most here.

You make some good points, and certainly hitting on a QB and getting 3 or so good years out of him on the cheap is a winning strategy. We've had huge money tied up in Ben so long... paying top money for a QB is just a given (already factored into our equation). I'm sure most on here don't mind the FO shelling out the $$$$. We need the production to match it. I realize Haley factors in to this... him leaving solves part of the problem if they'll pull the trigger.

[Terrapin]

Ben has also been asking for a 'big' passing target for years. Ever since Plax left. They didn't replace Heath. Got unlucky with Ladarius Green. Vance Mcdonald sucks. Had multiple busts (Wheaton, Coates, etc), and a serial dope fiend at WR.

[Shoe]

Ben has also been asking for a 'big' passing target for years. Ever since Plax left. They didn't replace Heath. Got unlucky with Ladarius Green. Vance Mcdonald sucks. Had multiple busts (Wheaton, Coates, etc), and a serial dope fiend at WR.

He's got Bryant, he now has Juju. He also has Antonio freakin Brown, and Le'veon Bell, behind an o-line that has been together and is intact for years. 31 other QBs would trade their rosters for Ben's roster right now. Think about that.

As for drafting, something will come. I will say that I do not like Tomlin's seeming philosophy when it comes to drafting QBs at all. He seems to love mobile athletic guys, but discounts accurate, heady types. He's picked-up at various points in his tenure: Mike Vick, Tajh Boyd, the Ohio State guy who bounced around awhile, this Dobbs kid. What we should be going after, are heady Marc Bulger-like guys. Hoyer is another poorman's example of that. But a guy like Bulger... or Cousins... neither is looked at as franchise-QB material, but they are heady and accurate and can run efficient professional football. This is the type of guy that will be available to us at late-first through 3rd rounds.

[Steel Maniac]

and who has the power to do that?

Not Tomlin.

[Steel Maniac]

i dont think anyone thought bens dramatic decline, if thats what this is would happen so sharply

have they held onto a bum like landry jones too long, certainly. but to get a franchise QB history says you almost have to take one in the 1st and i just dont believe that would have been wise where this team was the last 2-3 years. IMO, last year was the 1st time you could have been proactive and taken a QB in the first. the recipe that has seemed to be the most successful is to hit on that QB and reap the benefits of the cheap rookie contract. drafting someone and letting them sit for 3 years and then paying top $$ if you hit on him just doesnt seem like good strategy, imo

the only person i remember talking about it was shawn who advocated taking mahonnes last year and he was roundly mocked by most here.

I remember that. Now who looks like the smart guy?