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  • feltdizz
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    • May 2008
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    Our vaunted OL

    I think we had all our starters in for the first 3rd and 1 where we were stuffed behind the LOS.

    Is it me or is this awesome OL terrible when we need 1 yard and the defense knows it?
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  • Oviedo
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    • May 2008
    • 23824

    #2
    It's you...
    "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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    • feltdizz
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      • May 2008
      • 27531

      #3
      Originally posted by Oviedo
      It's you...
      OK, thanks.. still think that GL or 3rd and 1 is going to be frustrating this year.
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      • Oviedo
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        • May 2008
        • 23824

        #4
        Originally posted by feltdizz
        OK, thanks.. still think that GL or 3rd and 1 is going to be frustrating this year.

        Seriously though, in those situations I think you still need a good lead blocker in the backfield and I don't think we have one of those on the roster. Nix does nice things but he isn't an elite lead blocker
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        • RuthlessBurgher
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          • May 2008
          • 33208

          #5
          What make our OL special is their athleticism and ability to get to the second level, not necessarily their brute strength as bull rush style blockers. We don't have behemoths who simply overpower you like the mid-90's Cowboys. This OL is built for a modern-day NFL offense.
          Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

          Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

          We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

          We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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          • feltdizz
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            • May 2008
            • 27531

            #6
            Originally posted by Oviedo
            Seriously though, in those situations I think you still need a good lead blocker in the backfield and I don't think we have one of those on the roster. Nix does nice things but he isn't an elite lead blocker
            I don't think that matters.

            Rutheless probably hit the nail on the head. I think we need to go outside in these instances because our track record up the middle is horrendous.
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            • phillyesq
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              • May 2008
              • 7568

              #7
              Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
              What make our OL special is their athleticism and ability to get to the second level, not necessarily their brute strength as bull rush style blockers. We don't have behemoths who simply overpower you like the mid-90's Cowboys. This OL is built for a modern-day NFL offense.
              Agree. This line has great mobility, but probably isn't the best drive blocking line.

              Also, against the Giants, Finney was in for Pouncey, and AV wasn't playing, either.

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              • The Man of Steel
                Pro Bowler
                • Dec 2009
                • 2236

                #8
                I read on another Steelers website that last season LeVeon Bell was the best short yardage back in the league so I don't know.
                Obviously the standard is the standard.

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                • Captain Lemming
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                  • Jun 2008
                  • 16041

                  #9
                  Originally posted by feltdizz
                  I think we had all our starters in for the first 3rd and 1 where we were stuffed behind the LOS.

                  Is it me or is this awesome OL terrible when we need 1 yard and the defense knows it?
                  Remember our debates about Pouncey who I have contended for YEARS is overrated for this very reason??
                  Very athletic, but does not push the pile.

                  Haven't debated that point in a year but after last season the fact remains, yet again fewer interior rushing touchdowns in 2016 than the year Pouncey missed entirely.
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                  In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                  TCFCLTC-
                  The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                  • NorthCoast
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                    • Sep 2008
                    • 26636

                    #10
                    Three things, 1) the OL was NOT the starting OL (only 3 of 5). 2) the Giants were the 2nd ranked rush defense in the NFL last season and the starting unit was mostly intact for the game, 3) OL is typically a slow starting unit for the Steelers.

                    I see no cause for alarm at this point.

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                    • Captain Lemming
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                      • Jun 2008
                      • 16041

                      #11
                      Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                      What make our OL special is their athleticism and ability to get to the second level, not necessarily their brute strength as bull rush style blockers. We don't have behemoths who simply overpower you like the mid-90's Cowboys. This OL is built for a modern-day NFL offense.
                      Very true. Problem is that athletic over power results in big yardage that doesn't always show in the score.

                      Cowboys oline is MUCH better at interior run blocking than ours is.
                      Remember Bell makes lemonaid out of lemons frequently when there initially is no hole where its supposed to be.
                      Last edited by Captain Lemming; 08-14-2017, 07:36 PM.
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                      In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                      TCFCLTC-
                      The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                      • feltdizz
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                        • May 2008
                        • 27531

                        #12
                        Originally posted by NorthCoast
                        Three things, 1) the OL was NOT the starting OL (only 3 of 5). 2) the Giants were the 2nd ranked rush defense in the NFL last season and the starting unit was mostly intact for the game, 3) OL is typically a slow starting unit for the Steelers.

                        I see no cause for alarm at this point.
                        Thanks, I must have heard wrong during the game. I thought they said we had our starting OL.. maybe they said it was the starting DL for the Giants?
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                        • Shoe
                          Hall of Famer
                          • May 2008
                          • 4044

                          #13
                          I think you guys are reading too much into this.

                          Objectively, I'll tell you I'd take that cheating assh01e* over Tomlin, or I'd probably take (e.g.) Aaron Rodgers over Ben, and if you took asked me about any player vs. player, I think I'd give my personal take on it. That being said, if they asked to exchange O-lines (plus the O-line coach, lets say) with DAL or any team, I'd take our O-line. I really think we have the best O-line in the league.
                          I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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                          • pittpete
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                            • Aug 2008
                            • 6825

                            #14
                            Pretty sure if IIRC, it was Foster getting beat bad which resulted in the loss of yardage.
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                            • SanAntonioSteelerFan
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                              • May 2008
                              • 8361

                              #15
                              Originally posted by feltdizz
                              I think we had all our starters in for the first 3rd and 1 where we were stuffed behind the LOS.

                              Is it me or is this awesome OL terrible when we need 1 yard and the defense knows it?

                              Same for me. Didn't we have a poor "TD per red zone visit ratio" stat last year (and the year before ...)? Maybe it's all emotion, but my mind's eye sees a typical RZ visit for us as getting stuffed at the 1, then the RB getting pushed back to the 6, then us throwing an incomplete pass, then getting a field goal. Then me wondering about our OL!


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                              HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!

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